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roy munster ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 14320 |
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Having previously said monye was ok, his last 6 nations highlights episode on itv was really poor...The whole show was strangely wooden
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Africa Status: Offline Points: 45496 |
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I might disagree on the odd one above but I’m fully aligned on the need to refresh the pundits. If you no longer play you are still relevant for 2-3 seasons but after that you have to watch as much rugby as you can to stay relevant. If not you just trundle out the same stuff and can only comment on what you see in the game you are watching. Nothing interesting, no anecdotes and little relevance. |
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Legendinmybathroom ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 May 2017 Location: Burry Port Status: Offline Points: 1699 |
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I quite liked the 3 in the studio in last nights game. Kayser has been a great addition in recent weeks, JB is just so measured in everything he says, and he’s only just finished playing the game so knows what’s relevant to the here and now, and McNichol is often sensible. The commentators and pundits on ITV have been pretty poor throughout the championship.
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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 13573 |
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Moore and butler are still the gold standard. Kay and healey are decent on bt, warbs kaser and jb ade v good i like jiffy and he covers rl so bbc get two for price of one, but yes the others prob need upgrading. Personally i don’t rate the likes of alfie shane hook or sq all poor imo
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roy munster ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 14320 |
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I disagree with changing simply because they stopped playing yrs ago....These older pros bring a different angle to the game...A nice balance of old and new gives it more flavour for me
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Africa Status: Offline Points: 45496 |
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Butler can’t go through a game without getting at least 2 players names hopelessly wrong (continuously).
In Wales we see or hear a lot of Holley and Shane.They are unable to attain a neutral viewpoint if the Ospreys are on the pitch. BT, Sky etc just wouldn’t put up with either of the above traits. |
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Africa Status: Offline Points: 45496 |
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...the game has less and less comparable things to a couple of decades ago though Roy...I mean by that the laws of the game as much as anything. Scrums, lineouts, tackling technique, disciplinary protocol, HIA’s and raft of subtle interpretations have evolved to a much different point. I don’t mind senior ex pros at all, but if you are being paid to be a pundit then try and stay relevant. Watch all the rugby you can, from age grade on. The ‘ that would never have happened in my day...’ doesn’t really have a place in my view. Edited by Wil Chips - 27 March 2021 at 8:49pm |
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roy munster ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 14320 |
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Butler muddling the odd name doesnt bother me in the slightest but it may bother everyone else
Its all part of his charm. Alas no one comes within a country mile of bill mclaren he ticked every box for me and even boxes he created himself like the endless colourful descriptions and anecdotes, cliff morgan too was majestic behind the microphone. Both these great men didnt talk over the action like so many do now , they added to what we saw. To coin a corny yankee phrase they were well prepared but also in the moment and reacted on their feet. |
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 13573 |
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roy munster ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 14320 |
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cotter has improved I agree and hes probably numero uno now
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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 13573 |
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Holley good analyst i don’t like him as a commentator shanklin os basically a blues cheer leader. Mike phillips is funny and i like jamie roberts.
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ladram ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Online Points: 24664 |
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i disagree ken.
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Africa Status: Offline Points: 45496 |
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I’m sort of suggesting this is my point....Allis, Pickering, Benaud, Carpenter, Walker, McLaren, Motson...these guys were superbly informed and researched all the detail... Mclaren was great, to tag Geoff Wheel as the ‘ Mumbles Lighthouse’ meant he needed to know where he was from, where Mumbles is, and indeed that there is a lighthouse there. Not something you’d expect your average Scotsman to know really. |
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roy munster ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 14320 |
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Absolutely brilliant
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 12172 |
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Nothing beats a presenter who puts in the hard work & gets informed. I read an interesting article by Flatman recently who put into perspective what he does before any game in which he is involved. I still rate Butler & Moore highly as they are entertaining - I can certainly forgive Butler getting some names wrong.
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solva ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 20 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 2398 |
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Friday was Inverdale’s last presentation shift on rugby for the BBC. He’s now on the RFU council representing the NCA.
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