Ryan jones

I really don't to want to make light of this situation in any way shape or form and i honestly feel for ryan and his family but you don't get £400/£500 k a year to be a roofer or brickie you surely must go into rugby knowing the risks?

ladram wrote: I really don't to want to make light of this situation in any way shape or form and i honestly feel for ryan and his family but you don't get £400/£500 k a year to be a roofer or brickie you surely must go into rugby knowing the risks?

He didn’t know the risks though that’s the whole point. He went into rugby knowing there was a big risk he could break a few bones, lose some teeth, maybe get arthritis but he didn’t know there was a risk he could forget the names of his children before he was 50. Players of his era didn’t have that information so weren’t able to make an informed decision before deciding whether to play rugby or not. When you look at the situations the likes of Jones, Steve Thompson, and Alix Popham find themselves in it makes me really angry when I see people say the games gone soft. Whenever there’s direct contact to the head it should be an automatic red card, while contact training should be very minimal. Things need to change or there won’t be a game left. I fear this is the tip of the iceberg. This is definitely not on the players

Edited by scarletnut - 20 July 2022 at 12:02am

scarletnut wrote: ladram wrote: I really don't to want to make light of this situation in any way shape or form and i honestly feel for ryan and his family but you don't get £400/£500 k a year to be a roofer or brickie you surely must go into rugby knowing the risks? He didn’t know the risks though that’s the whole point. He went into rugby knowing there was a big risk he could break a few bones, lose some teeth, maybe get arthritis but he didn’t know there was a risk he could forget the names of his children before he was 50. Players of his era didn’t have that information so weren’t able to make an informed decision before deciding whether to play rugby or not. When you look at the situations the likes of Jones, Steve Thompson, and Alix Popham find themselves in it makes me really angry when I see people say the games gone soft. Whenever there’s direct contact to the head it should be an automatic red card, while contact training should be very minimal. Things need to change or there won’t be a game left. I fear this is the tip of the iceberg. This is definitely not on the players

Eastern outpost wrote: Match day squad maximum weight limit?

scarletnut wrote: ladram wrote: scarletnut wrote: ladram wrote: I really don't to want to make light of this situation in any way shape or form and i honestly feel for ryan and his family but you don't get £400/£500 k a year to be a roofer or brickie you surely must go into rugby knowing the risks? He didn’t know the risks though that’s the whole point. He went into rugby knowing there was a big risk he could break a few bones, lose some teeth, maybe get arthritis but he didn’t know there was a risk he could forget the names of his children before he was 50. Players of his era didn’t have that information so weren’t able to make an informed decision before deciding whether to play rugby or not. When you look at the situations the likes of Jones, Steve Thompson, and Alix Popham find themselves in it makes me really angry when I see people say the games gone soft. Whenever there’s direct contact to the head it should be an automatic red card, while contact training should be very minimal. Things need to change or there won’t be a game left. I fear this is the tip of the iceberg. This is definitely not on the players What do you think is the answer steff?rugby union has become obsessed with size with centres being as big and heavy as our forwards were in the 70's also are there any cases of players in the SH taking on their respective unions because this fixation on size has come from the SH. I’m not entirely sure but a lot of players have called for minimal contact training in the week. Longer time off for head knocks maybe. Some even want less subs in a game

One of tbe biggezt factors, as highllighted by DA recently, is tbe fact you can bring on an almost new pack of monsters at 50mins. Just imagine the impact theze players have on ayers who will not be su subbed. Take Reffell for instance. He played the whole 80mins against 2 monster packs. That cant be good for hus body 3 weeks on the trot. People suggest lowering impact in training, which i agree with, but this will only underprepare them for matchday physicality which will inturn have a bigger impact lo g term

ladram wrote: scarletnut wrote: ladram wrote: I really don't to want to make light of this situation in any way shape or form and i honestly feel for ryan and his family but you don't get £400/£500 k a year to be a roofer or brickie you surely must go into rugby knowing the risks? He didn’t know the risks though that’s the whole point. He went into rugby knowing there was a big risk he could break a few bones, lose some teeth, maybe get arthritis but he didn’t know there was a risk he could forget the names of his children before he was 50. Players of his era didn’t have that information so weren’t able to make an informed decision before deciding whether to play rugby or not. When you look at the situations the likes of Jones, Steve Thompson, and Alix Popham find themselves in it makes me really angry when I see people say the games gone soft. Whenever there’s direct contact to the head it should be an automatic red card, while contact training should be very minimal. Things need to change or there won’t be a game left. I fear this is the tip of the iceberg. This is definitely not on the players What do you think is the answer steff?rugby union has become obsessed with size with centres being as big and heavy as our forwards were in the 70's also are there any cases of players in the SH taking on their respective unions because this fixation on size has come from the SH.

ladram wrote: Eastern outpost wrote: Match day squad maximum weight limit? The refs come in for a bashing here and rightly so on many occasions but i think refs need to be for more vigilant when it comes to head contact but are the refs of a good enough quality anyway?

This forum’s ability to find fault with every ref, no matter how good, means maybe it’s not quite the right question.