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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grammar School Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2023 at 4:17pm
If we can get to 6-2, it will have been a very good start
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2023 at 5:03pm
john rahmbo has just buried an absolute killer putt at the last hole for his 2nd eaglie to tie the match
that could be crticial in the final analysis
6 - 1 up now 1 match left usa 1 ahead in that 1
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Fantastic day for Europe.

USA up in 3 games well in to the four ball’s and didn’t win one. Rahm and Rose were superb, equally most of the US team looked off their game a bit, but most importantly they looked totally shot by the end.

Edited by Wil Chips - 29 September 2023 at 5:37pm
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Great day without doubt - Europe's big boys turned up big time while the Americans seemed quite subdued. Nothing dropped for them on the greens which must change. Talk of illness in the camp leading to some energy issues. I knew we could rely on our Sicilian brothers to lend a hand. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2023 at 10:03am
Amazing result this morning for Hovland and Åberg - a 9 & 7 win. 

ATM - Europe up in 2 more matches, USA in one with a few holes to go.


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So - 3-1 to Europe this morning makes it 91/2 to 2 1/2 overall.

Surely Europe can't lose from that position - can they? 
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It's clear that there's a motivation issue with some in the US team...can't be helped by the scoreboard of course.
Asking why they aren't paid to play in this event (Cantlay and his mate Schaufle) is undermining his team and skipper.

Watching Scotty Sheffler in tears after losing 9&7 suggests it's not him. It's the appropriate reaction to a record defeat. Where his golf has been of late regrettably though...he's way off on his usual immaculate short game.



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Sheffler's putting, bearing in mind he is World No 1, is woeful & we can only imagine how good he would be if he got it sorted. The nonsense about not wearing the cap and being paid is pretty typical of many in the American team who really don't get that there is golf outside the US.

Some of the decisions made by players & management suggest to me that, despite the rhetoric, this tournament is something of a side issue for them. For instance no American player has played at the Italian Open in the last two years despite it being played at Marco Simone. Add in the fact that most of the team took 4 weeks off golf in the build up. Would they take that route before a major - absolutely not. Luke Donald & his team have played a blinder so far in preparation & motivation. The constant theme of the European hero Seve is just one of the clever things.

I see Rory got quite excited with Cantlay's caddie for running across his line before the final putts on the 18th - even confronting him in the car park. Rory epitomises for me the desire to win being shown by all involved with Europe. He hasn't quite found his A game yet but even his B+ is usually good enough. 

If Luke Donald had been offered a 5 point lead going into the singles on Friday morning he would have bitten your hand off. However a word of caution - nothing is won until its won. Donald has top loaded his singles format so the big beasts of the European team need to show up one more time. 
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The 3-1 to the US yesterday afternoon keep the door open a little. Beyond Rahm, Rose, McIlroy, Hovland, Fleetwood and maybe one or two others, the US have a head to head advantage. Both teams have to put out their big guns in the first games of course.

Hats off to Justin Rose. He’s been magnificent. Not something I predicted ( then again my predictions are generally woeful!)
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

The 3-1 to the US yesterday afternoon keep the door open a little. Beyond Rahm, Rose, McIlroy, Hovland, Fleetwood and maybe one or two others, the US have a head to head advantage. Both teams have to put out their big guns in the first games of course.

Hats off to Justin Rose. He’s been magnificent. Not something I predicted ( then again my predictions are generally woeful!)

Yes Rose's experience has coaxed the best out of McIntyre who looked like a rabbit in the headlights over the first few holes which is pretty understandable. Most of the required 4 points need to come from the five you have listed along with Hatton who is a fine player.
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Sorry, yes you’re right. Hatton and Fitzpatrick have the game to score a point too.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grammar School Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2023 at 5:03pm
Got a little close there, but the big guns did their bit, and it was enough.  Donald did well as the captain, and they may want to keep him for NY in 2 years time as that will be a real challenge.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2023 at 7:40pm
[QUOTE=ladram]I think the core of the European team are in form and can carry us to victory this time and if Luke takes a day to Sicily I'm sure there are some 28 handicappers who can make the Yanks an offer they can't refuse LOL[/QUOTE
just thought I'd repost thisSmileClapClap great contest again 
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

European golf is in a bit of a fallow period right now. Maybe half a dozen players capable of holding their own against a strong American side.

Could be a whooping again tbh.


All I can say bois bach is oh ye of little faith. Wink
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I fancy the yanks big time tbh

All I can say bois bach is oh ye of little faith. Wink
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Fantastic performance by Europe's big boys. Sheffler's problems from 8 foot in surfaced again & kept Rahm in the game. Hovland, Hatton, McIlroy never in doubt. Rose fought to the end against their best player & Fleetwood & McIntyre closed it out. A huge lesson is there for the Americans but if they are true to form they will ignore it as usual. 

Hopefully Donald will be retained for Beth Page Black in two years which will, as usual, be a huge test of character with US fans no doubt showing us a lot of the worst side of the game. The course set up made a massive difference. The Americans never really came to terms with hitting the fairway with penal rough lining both sides. It was not as if the fairways were narrow, they weren't. Perhaps they should learn to make more of their tournament venues challenge players to use all 14 clubs instead of the usual driver/3 wood wedge putter routine. 

Whatever the machinations it was compelling viewing & huge entertainment. To see my 86 year old neighbour ( round for some Sunday roast) screaming "get in there" to one of Tommy's putts late on made my day. 
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