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Yes sorry for the boys excluded but delighted that they will be back here preparing for the season. They have all had more caps and the 6 Nations is only around the corner for them. I’m hoping that the experience gained in camp will help push on Plumtree Rogers and Roberts in particular. Kieran looked flat but then the pack was being hammered so awful ball

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Originally posted by Raised By Peregos Raised By Peregos wrote:

And Joe of course... added to Ken and Josh when they recover. 

I know there aren't really games but will be good to have them available to train. Especially Plumtree who hasn't spent any time with them yet.
We have 3 decent warm up fixtures, Barbarians on 16th  on 29th Sept. Dragons on 6th October (God knows why they're on Friday nights!). Then we have to take the squad to SA for the 1st 2 league games (Bulls then Stormers)

This means we can do that with a decent level of preparation. I'm chuffed with that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2023 at 1:35pm
Just seen this on the BBC:

You have to feel for Taine Plumtree.

He was all set to start pre-season with Scarlets this summer when he got a call out of the blue from Warren Gatland to join Wales on their training camp.

His ability to play in the second-row and back-row would have made him a huge asset but injury at Twickenham has cost him.

So it seems that Plumtree may have got picked ahead of Tshiunza but for the injury. Gatland has told him to be ready in case Wales need replacements during the tournament, so he may still make it...



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And lets be honest, the 33 named wont be the 33 that finishes, its highly likely that even after game 1 we will need to call up replacements so while we are happy now, there will be 10-15 players on standby including several of hours I would wager. Fortunately I cant see Wales going far with that squad.
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Originally posted by locked out supertaf locked out supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Only two scrum halves or have I missed something?
Apparently Costellow is cover for 9....

I can see him playing there in an emergency - skilful player. 
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Only two scrum halves or have I missed something?
Apparently Costellow is cover for 9....
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From a Scarlets POV - vary many congratulations to those who made the squad:

Costelow, Cawdor, Jonny W, and Ryan E.

Commiserations to those who missed out - mainly as a result of inexperience (Gatland favours that when there are close calls to be made): Kemsley, Plumtree, Kieran, Joe Roberts, Tom Rogers.

IMO, most of those have a very realistic chance of stepping up to the Wales squad for the 6N either this season or next - guys for the future. Kieran must have been in a very close call for one of the two slots.
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Originally posted by scarletabroad scarletabroad wrote:

I’m chuffed selfishly that Plumtree didn’t make it but Tchizuna has been diabolical

I don't think so - Tshiunza has been anonymous; Plumtree had one very good cameo (despite some errors) and one half with more minus points than plusses. I think Plumtree will be great for the Scarlets, and maybe Wales - but he does lack experience, and it showed. So they chose the guy with more experience (see many other positions), and who can cover two positions - Tshiunza can play second row at a push, but don't think that is the case for Plumtree. Anyway, it should be a huge fillip for him to have got a cap and made the training squad - an incentive to improve with the Scarlets and show his worth. That's a good position to be in.
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Only two scrum halves or have I missed something?


I was thinking the same "greypower"!!
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Only two scrum halves or have I missed something?
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This is a massive result for us.
If we can get Ken & Josh back in time for URC then we’re golden.

Honestly only thought we’d get Rogers back so to have Mathias, Plumtree, Hardy & Roberts join him back home is brilliant.

Can get excited for the BaaBaa’s and season kick off

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Same about Plumtree. I agree that Tshuinza hasn't shown up much in the warm-up games BUT given how he starts for Exeter every week there has to be something major there. 
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congratulations to the Scarlets involved in rwc final group...
the others will have their opportunities in next years to show their talent.
Hope in a good spedition, but I m so worried about.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletabroad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2023 at 12:33pm
I’m chuffed selfishly that Plumtree didn’t make it but Tchizuna has been diabolical
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And Joe of course... added to Ken and Josh when they recover. 

I know there aren't really games but will be good to have them available to train. Especially Plumtree who hasn't spent any time with them yet.
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Well that announcement provides a boost for the Scarlets. We'll get Matthias, Hardy, Rogers and Plumtree all back. 

Congrats to Sam and Johnny particularly for playing themselves onto the plane.
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