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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Online Points: 15407 |
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Scrum v back to it’s usual dross . Steve spiers singing who think that’s a good use of limited air time. Shanklin and alfie dire pundits how to beat france “be brave” well that is so insightful chaps
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roy munster ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 14833 |
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Its absolute rubbish I dont watch it anymore
Did watch rugby special england with monye jiffy and dylan hartley, far more analytical one staggering stat that shows why we got done over 1st half their props carried 24 times, ours carried ONCE
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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Jones2004 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 September 2019 Location: North Wales Status: Offline Points: 1370 |
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They should employ Squidge Rugby if they want to improve the show. Brilliant analysis, mixed in with tremendous humour. I just watch his youtube videos, it gives me a great understanding of where the game was won / lost and is ten minutes of brilliant entertainment as well.
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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Online Points: 15407 |
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The wru should employ squidge, he is top analyst of the game. He can be too heavy on the humor sometines he is much funnier than the scrum v lot and he is very bright and always worth a watch
Edited by RR1972 - 27 February 2022 at 8:51pm |
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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dyniol53 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2018 Location: Llundain Status: Offline Points: 1838 |
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Agree - just one point. I don’t mind Sara Elgin, Catrin Heledd or Ross Harries individually - but I don’t see why you need two presenters. There’s then 4 pundits - most of whom aren’t very insightful, but they’re given not a lot of time to get their point across, because there’s 6 people Sat around the table. What’s the point?
Just need one presenter two pundits, maybe have one ex-international in the wings for an anecdote or two but there a dearth of insight really rubbish. They let Squidge on a few years ago for a short video - not sure the show producers get it. There’s so many good analysts out there on YouTube that cast shade on Sean Holley’s analysis but at the moment Holleys bit isthe only bit worth watching. But if the shows producers want to improve they should start with cutting the numbers of presenters and pundits in half to allow more depth.
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dyniol53 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2018 Location: Llundain Status: Offline Points: 1838 |
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We don’t use our props like that though do we - don’t know what the rucks hit stats would be but Wyn and Francis/Brown might have done more work in that area. When carrying is not either of their strengths it doesn’t make sense to make them do it - whereas Sinkler and Genge are natural carriers. Someone on twitter made the point that although Basham is very talented, strong carrier and tackles well - his clear out work in the ruck is below par for his position. Squidge made the point in the Ireland wales video that were nowhere at the breakdown. I think our attack and ball retention improved a lot when Jac Morgan came on and Basham came off yesterday. It might be a big call but I’d go for Morgan, Moriarty, Faletau vs France. I’ve never not been impressed by a JM’s performance, even when we were humbled by Sale he made a difference.
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Totally agree on that about basham , morgan has outshone basham last few games id go with that back row and Id also bring wainwright back on the bench, am I the only 1 who rates him lol as for the props yes hitting the rucks is important as is scrummaging but 24 carries to 1 is too much of a chasm and part explains the reason they keep smashing us in the first half hour. Our props need to do more. perhaps even try out gareth thomas as a ball carrying prop. This was where rob evans edged wyn jones, but hes disappeared off the map mysteriously
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dyniol53 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2018 Location: Llundain Status: Offline Points: 1838 |
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Would be great but our scrummaging is sound with Wyn and Francis. If we give away parity at the scrum we’re f***ed, even if it means our attack suffers
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Cant hurt them to try carry a bit more, at least with rowlands carrying more and faletaua moriarty back it gives us more ball carriers
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Before you can carry you need the ball. Didn't see a lot of it first half and when we got it we gave away penalties.
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Keep the faith
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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Online Points: 15407 |
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Watching jiffy and both spoke really well, jiffy rightly calling out russell lack of work rate and scotlands obession with missed passes. Wales convert 20 per cent of our line breaks france Are 65 per cent and ireland 55 per cent
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Lack of ball carrying is something we have struggled with for a while. I would start Gareth Thomas & Brown - they will give us some options. Brown seemed to go Ok when he came on for Francis' HIA at set piece. Jac has to replace Basham who is so ineffective at the breakdown.
Our attacking play seems unstructured/unplanned. Support lines just aren't being run. The French and Irish seem to flood the danger areas either side of the player making the break hence they finish off more opportunities. If our props were out carried by Sinckler & Genge wait until Baille & friends arrive in Cardiff. Add in Marchand's work at the breadown & that is one hell of a front row.
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N14 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 28 November 2017 Status: Offline Points: 724 |
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Spot on, scrummaging ability has to be the top priority. Adam Jones was in no way a carrier, in fact I always thought he offered little around the park. But he was our first choice tighthead for a number of years, and rightly so in my opinion, because of his scrummaging ability.
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