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How about sospan or turks. I keep wanting to shout scarlets as well and I have done a few times but I mainly try and shout lads, boys or LLanelli

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How about sospan or turks. I keep wanting to shout scarlets as well and I have done a few times but I mainly try and shout lads, boys or LLanelli

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bit worried about shouting "c'mon boys"
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Originally posted by bin laden bin laden wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

How about sospan or turks. I keep wanting to shout scarlets as well and I have done a few times but I mainly try and shout lads, boys or LLanelli

Ummmmmmmmmm ^^^^^^^^

bit worried about shouting "c'mon boys"

The only shouting you do at a game is at the bar staff
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Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

because they are not the scarlets!!! Regional rugby forced our hand to rebrand our side to become the Llanelli Scarlets and thus promoting the U21's to Llanelli RFC.

The Scarlets and Llanelli RFC are 2 seperate entities and should be treated thus. As a region, we haven't fully gripped onto this, The Llanelli RFC club side should have it's own website, own coaches and run totally independantly from the Scarlets, obviously with the situation of the ground share then the money side of the problem is a different matter, but if we look at this from a history point of view it is actually The Scarlets who are lodgers at Llanelli RFC. It has already been brought to attention at the club the bias shown to Llanelli RFC at Scarlets games when they were only giving information on Llanelli RFC games and not on the other feeder clubs, this has now been addressed by information on other feeder club games being given out.

 

Disagree 200% if thats possible. Llanelli RFC have had the `nickname` the Scarlets` for many, many years. The regional team ARE CALLED `The Scarlets` spot the subtle difference........

For me, both teams will always be the scarlets. Do Newport supporters chant `NOOOOPOOORT` at regional AND club games? I think you will find they do.

Change your signature then. That's because the moron's at dave parade refuse to acknowledge that their region are now the dragons. It is about time the WRU forced the regions to drop their team names and call themselves by the nickname as such. There can't be 2 sides called the scarlets, so does that make the semi-pro's the region as well? No, they are a feeder club to the scarlets so how can they be the scarlets, they are a seperate entity. you explained it in your post. Llanelli RFC always had the nickname the scarlets, now there is a genuine team called the scarlets, so you can't have that nickname. The club could be alienating a minority of fans for the region due to the close ties with llanelli rfc and that they are more distant with their clubs.

If I remember correctly, in the 80's the club had a problem with the welsh shop in the market reproducing shirts with the llanelli rfc logo on it. they lost due to the logo not being a registered trademark, thus the change in the logo to the dragon. If the nickname the scarlets becomes a registered trademark then the club will definitely have to distance the 2 entities, due to trademark laws...

 
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Originally posted by Pan handle Pan handle wrote:

Originally posted by bin laden bin laden wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

How about sospan or turks. I keep wanting to shout scarlets as well and I have done a few times but I mainly try and shout lads, boys or LLanelli

Ummmmmmmmmm ^^^^^^^^

bit worried about shouting "c'mon boys"

The only shouting you do at a game is at the bar staff

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the turks seems the best idea so far in my opinion.
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Sorry lads and lasses, don't agree with the points regardless of what my signature says. The regional team are the new boys and hence the club side have more rights to the nickname that the region in a way. The only way to get around it is if one team changes their colours which is something that was touted around as a must for the region so that the scarlet link is lost. Maybe the club should change colours??

What if the region had decided to call themselves West Wales Drovers. Does that mean that suddenly Llandovery supporters can no longer shout for their club side using their established nickname??
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Sorry lads and lasses, don't agree with the points regardless of what my signature says. The regional team are the new boys and hence the club side have more rights to the nickname that the region in a way. The only way to get around it is if one team changes their colours which is something that was touted around as a must for the region so that the scarlet link is lost. Maybe the club should change colours??

What if the region had decided to call themselves West Wales Drovers. Does that mean that suddenly Llandovery supporters can no longer shout for their club side using their established nickname??

 
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I like " turks " too!

i dont mind redsox either it sounds ok when u say it

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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Sorry lads and lasses, don't agree with the points regardless of what my signature says. The regional team are the new boys and hence the club side have more rights to the nickname that the region in a way. The only way to get around it is if one team changes their colours which is something that was touted around as a must for the region so that the scarlet link is lost. Maybe the club should change colours??

What if the region had decided to call themselves West Wales Drovers. Does that mean that suddenly Llandovery supporters can no longer shout for their club side using their established nickname??

I can't agree with this because, in effect, our fight to stand alone in the top flight was to preserve the Scarlets as a top flight rugby side. What was Llanelli RFC became Llanelli Scarlets, and the youngsters came in to fill the void. We retained our status by switching to a regional entity. But we had to field a semi pro team as well, and that team naturally picked up the discarded RFC identity.
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Originally posted by Micro Duck Micro Duck wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Sorry lads and lasses, don't agree with the points regardless of what my signature says. The regional team are the new boys and hence the club side have more rights to the nickname that the region in a way. The only way to get around it is if one team changes their colours which is something that was touted around as a must for the region so that the scarlet link is lost. Maybe the club should change colours??

What if the region had decided to call themselves West Wales Drovers. Does that mean that suddenly Llandovery supporters can no longer shout for their club side using their established nickname??

I can't agree with this because, in effect, our fight to stand alone in the top flight was to preserve the Scarlets as a top flight rugby side. What was Llanelli RFC became Llanelli Scarlets, and the youngsters came in to fill the void. We retained our status by switching to a regional entity. But we had to field a semi pro team as well, and that team naturally picked up the discarded RFC identity.

Exactly Duckie! cor blimey guv'nor, the posts we had on this site about that last season
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Originally posted by Micro Duck Micro Duck wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Sorry lads and lasses, don't agree with the points regardless of what my signature says. The regional team are the new boys and hence the club side have more rights to the nickname that the region in a way. The only way to get around it is if one team changes their colours which is something that was touted around as a must for the region so that the scarlet link is lost. Maybe the club should change colours??

What if the region had decided to call themselves West Wales Drovers. Does that mean that suddenly Llandovery supporters can no longer shout for their club side using their established nickname??

I can't agree with this because, in effect, our fight to stand alone in the top flight was to preserve the Scarlets as a top flight rugby side. What was Llanelli RFC became Llanelli Scarlets, and the youngsters came in to fill the void. We retained our status by switching to a regional entity. But we had to field a semi pro team as well, and that team naturally picked up the discarded RFC identity.



If the regional side had chosen a different monicker to the Scarlets this problem wouldn’t have arisen, but not only did it stick with the Scarlets, we stuck with the Llanelli part also, and this has created all sorts of anomalies. How is a small town in Carmarthenshire expected to enfranchise supporters from across over half the geographical land mass of Wales?
I know there are fans from Gwynedd and all points West happy to support a team known either as Llanelli or Scarlets, but we have to look at those potential week in week out supporters of clubs like Narberth, Quins, Llandovery, and others accross the region that still regard either entity as rivals.
Look at the new Quins site. A lot of it is still under construction but regionalism seems to have passed them by if you were to go by their links section. Not a mention of the Scarlets that I could see, and I can sort of sympathise. Witness also the ‘ribbing’ of Llanelli RFC fans for a loss by the regional side the night before.

I know the Scarlets have made progress on this front, especially with ideas like the feeder club ticket option, but we’ve a  way to go before many of these supporters look to us as their own.
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Totally agree with you there Ursa. the first thing the club/region should have done was split the two teams into seperate entities. I know we needed to keep the llanelli tag for recognition. but we are now in our second season and should now drop the tag of llanelli next season. The Scarlets should be just that and Llanelli RFC should have it's own site and be a total seperate setup. The only Control Jenkins should have on Llanelli RFC is what players he can take and give. Nothing more. he doesn't decide the coaching setup etc..
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Originally posted by ursamajor ursamajor wrote:

Originally posted by Micro Duck Micro Duck wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Sorry lads and lasses, don't agree with the points regardless of what my signature says. The regional team are the new boys and hence the club side have more rights to the nickname that the region in a way. The only way to get around it is if one team changes their colours which is something that was touted around as a must for the region so that the scarlet link is lost. Maybe the club should change colours??

What if the region had decided to call themselves West Wales Drovers. Does that mean that suddenly Llandovery supporters can no longer shout for their club side using their established nickname??

I can't agree with this because, in effect, our fight to stand alone in the top flight was to preserve the Scarlets as a top flight rugby side. What was Llanelli RFC became Llanelli Scarlets, and the youngsters came in to fill the void. We retained our status by switching to a regional entity. But we had to field a semi pro team as well, and that team naturally picked up the discarded RFC identity.



If the regional side had chosen a different monicker to the Scarlets this problem wouldn’t have arisen, but not only did it stick with the Scarlets, we stuck with the Llanelli part also, and this has created all sorts of anomalies. How is a small town in Carmarthenshire expected to enfranchise supporters from across over half the geographical land mass of Wales?
I know there are fans from Gwynedd and all points West happy to support a team known either as Llanelli or Scarlets, but we have to look at those potential week in week out supporters of clubs like Narberth, Quins, Llandovery, and others accross the region that still regard either entity as rivals.
Look at the new Quins site. A lot of it is still under construction but regionalism seems to have passed them by if you were to go by their links section. Not a mention of the Scarlets that I could see, and I can sort of sympathise. Witness also the ‘ribbing’ of Llanelli RFC fans for a loss by the regional side the night before.

I know the Scarlets have made progress on this front, especially with ideas like the feeder club ticket option, but we’ve a  way to go before many of these supporters look to us as their own.




 

Quite hysterically, if you click on Llanelli on their website you get - The Scarlets - love it

TURKS!!!! Your having a laugh surely, being called a Turk is like being called a Nig**r as far as I'm concerned, it's a hateful name invented by Jacks cheesed off at our pretty `Scarlet` nickname



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Programme notes in the Llanharan programme stated something along the lines of "regionalism has created two 'scarlets' sides" - there's my answer!
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