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aber-fan 
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I'll go back to my earlier points -
1. Shingler loks too good a player o lose. 2. We don't have an 'obvious' first choice 15 at the moment. 3. Why not try Shingler at 15? I think he has the skills set needed - plus, he seems to be a more consistent kicker than RP. |
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JonWal
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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 6:45am |
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I'll agree with tht Aber, he's got the credentials, let's give him some first team experience.
... If it's not alreadytoo late. |
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Priestland is our best 15 at the moment. Shingler at 10, Priestland at 15 for games that Steveo is away. |
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Yes, but Rhys is also our best 10 except for Stevo - and as a runner, he's better. He's loking so dangerous at 10 that I don't think he should be moved to a less influential position unless Stevo is playing. |
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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 9:03am |
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Shingler has improved ten-fold since he started with RFC last year - I thought it was a mistake for them to let Luke Richards go as Steve kicked way too much and couldn't nail a penalty or conversion from even the 22 (with Dale Ford taking kicking duties on many occassions). But the rate at which he has improved is phenomenal. It would be a huge shame to lose him; but it's better to be blessed in a position (i've not seen this Jordan Williams kid, so can't comment) rather than barren (like the Dragons - Tovery or bust).
We're not the Ospreys, hoarding talent and locking people in the semi-pros. It's his best chance for professional rugby, so if it's true, all the best to him.
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Absolutely. I'd rather be in this position, having to let go of one player out of 3-4 very good prospects than what we're currently facing at lock. No senior player at the top of his game and little in the way of youngsters ready to take his place.
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Really? I think it would be a massive mistake.
They've got Ryan Lamb, Chris Malone, Jamie Lennard, and that guy Bowden can play outside half as well. He's good, but the Premiership mentality wouldn't allow a 19 year old to play in front of them 4, unless there are lots of injuries.
My prediction is that he'd have to wait for Chris Malone to retire before getting any meaningful game time. Malone is the same age as Stevo, and to be honest, I think Malone, as he hasn't played international rugby, will retire a few seasons after Stevo, so he will be waiting a long time.
And while he's waiting he'll be playing in maybe their A league.
Basically, he'd be in the same situation as he's in with us.
If this guy is good enough he will play profesional rugby for us.
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Jamie Lennard is currently getting game time for London Welsh.
London Irish and London Welsh have an arrangement in place whereby a nuimber of LW players play for Irish A and LI players get match time in the Championship with LW.
Its possible if this story is true he will be appearing in a different scarlet shirt.
I do hope the story is unfounded.
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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 11:05am |
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Thats what I thought CM, London Welsh wouldve been the better option if he was looking for game time.
Really hope theres no truth to these rumours, although you cannot hold it against him should he go.
It was only a matter of time the way he played in Reading.
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Well known fact that Irish have a problem at 10. 'Molly' Malone has never been a game controller and his kicking is dodgy. They put Lamb in the 'A's yesterday and he didn't impress - missing three out of five kicks. And Lennard is on loan at Welsh as they don't have a 10 in the absence of Gordon Ross (injured).
So try this for a scenario - Irish want Lennard back from Welsh for their first team squad (they are on the crest of a slump just now). Welsh need a 10. Welsh ask for Shingler with the promise that he can play by arrangement for Irish in the A league. 2+2 = 33?
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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 11:09am |
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Wouldnt be surprised, but even if there is nothing, at least it'll so Shinglers confidence the world of good.
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Today's London Welsh is not a better side than Llanelli, so playing for them or London Irish A, even if a regular choice would not be a step forward. If this rumour is true Steven will be taking a big gamble that he can break straight into the London Irish first XV. Moreover any increase in pay will soon be taken up with the increased costs of living in S.E.England.
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gypo told myself in the swansea game that he had been approached with a contract at London Irish.
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Matter of opinion whether Welsh are better than Llanelli (LW 20 Llanelli 10 in the B&I Cup last season) - but the Championship (Worcester, Bedford, Cornish, Bristol, Nottingham, etc) is a stronger competition than the Welsh Premiership. Shingler has a chance, if he does join Irish to play ahead of any of the number 10s they currently have their books. He's better than Malone, better than Lamb on current form and they don't seem to want to play Bowden at OH. And the increased costs of living in SE England, will undoubtedly be cushioned by the increase in wages and the fact that his housing costs will be met. Take out the property aspect and you can live as cheaply in London as you can in Pembs. (I know!)
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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 2:22pm |
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Did he mention if he saw Shingler with a Scarlets future?
Or did he mention if he thought he had talent/potential?
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Does'nt really matter.
The only bad thing in having a strong acadamy system, like ours at the moment, is players are coming through sometimes in a position that we do not need. take shinglers case, Currently we have Stephen Jones, Rhys Priestland, Jordan Williams in the ranks, plus Dan Newton as well as shingler. Thats stiff competition. He is a fine player, and London Irish are hardly blessed at 10 and he could quite easily be 1st choice next season. I hope he stays and wants to fight for his place here at the scarlets, but sometimes, players will leave for "promised" first team rugby. Alot have false promises though and i hope steven has his head on whilst making a decision...Money is not everything...a certain centre at the blues is a fine example of that.
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