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I’d take a victory over the all blacks. Obviously they are Wales bogey team. But i wouldn’t sacrifice it for a six nations title unless it was a world cup playoff maybe. 

If Ireland win again this weekend it will be incredible. I hope they do. I’ll eat my words then. 

As for Wales, I think the matchup is also really good. Both incredibly close games. I think this south africa lineup is the first choice. 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

It would be a grave mistake to fire Pivac. 

He is doing a good job of filling arguably the biggest coaching boots in Welsh rugby history (pro era for sure). 

On the day wales can mix it with the best. The last two games have shown that. Pivac has experimented with the side early on which didn’t help his cause, the naysayers got ammo for the sack Pivac argument. 

Compare him to his counterparts Farrel and Jones. Who is performing the best…


Farrell by a country mile as witnessed by the humiliation suffered by Wales last 6 nations. Pivac & Eddie on a par in my books. 
You sure about that? Farrel hasn’t won anything. Look at how Irish province success isn’t translating to the domestic side. Plus he still picks the same players. Sexton really should have had a successor. Farrels not looking beyond the WC. 
Surely this is a wind up?

Steff I think it might be but in case EJPT is being serious I would make these observations - firstly Farrell has improved the Irish team since taking over from Schmidt; I don't believe the same could be said for Pivac with Gatland; secondly did you see the Ireland against Wales game in this 6 nations; thirdly when Pivac took over from Gatland Wales were ranked in the top 4, Ireland were 7/8th - as of today Ireland are 2nd & Wales 8th - by any stretch of the imagination Farrell's body of work is currently far superior to Pivac's. 

Finally why shouldn't Farrell be concentrating on France 2023??? I don't think Pivac is doing anything different bearing in mind he has AWJ & Lydiate in his current best 23. 
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Ireland were 2nd in the world Rankings in July 2018. So at this point in the World Cup cycle they’re where they were 4years ago. With a lot of the same players. 

Andy Farrel is and isn’t concentrating on RWC, and I think rightly. Aseries win in New Zealand’s?! You’re not gonna get a better chance. How many sides have won a 3 match series in NZ?

England ‘03, that’s it no?

Pivac has actually won a trophy. But the raw Win % stats would say that Farrel & Ireland have been far superior since the 2020 6N and on. I don’t think that’s debatable.

What is up for debate is whether Pivac having won the 6N in 2020 has allowed him to rotate and experiment in a way Ireland haven’t, which might put Wales in better stead for France 2023.

Rugby comes in cycles and it is entirely possible that England and Wales are ‘troughing’ at the right time.


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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Ireland were 2nd in the world Rankings in July 2018 

Andy Farrel is and isn’t concentrating on RWC. But a series win in New Zealand’s?! You’re not gonna get a better chance. How many sides have won a 3 match series in NZ?

England ‘03, that’s it no?
England won 1 test in NZ in 2003
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World ranking is a farcical barometer but I see your point. 
The point i was making (badly) is its very much eggs in one basket for Ireland in regards to Sexton. Wales have a contingency with Anscombe and Sheedy. 

Farrel pretty much has a ready made team with Leinster supplemented by some of the stronger other provincial players. Pivacs piecing together terrible welsh regional rugby. Think you are too harsh on him.
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Pivac has take a lot of stick some of it justified but he is working with the poo show that is The WRU. 
He has brought in a lot of young players to have a taste of international rugby and we will be stronger for it.
He made massive error with Italy game which was treated as a benefit game for AWJ and Biggar. 
He has had huge injury problems missing our best fly half and centre for a long time remember Anscombe was first choice before his injury. 
He is in credit for me at moment but he must stick to first team now until World Cup. 
I would say Stephen Jones need to up his game as our attack is not looking great at moment. They must find a way of getting North into game more. 

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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Ireland were 2nd in the world Rankings in July 2018 

Andy Farrel is and isn’t concentrating on RWC. But a series win in New Zealand’s?! You’re not gonna get a better chance. How many sides have won a 3 match series in NZ?

England ‘03, that’s it no?
England won 1 test in NZ in 2003
they won a test out there before i think 73,france sa and lions have won test series in nz. I can’t stick pivac tbh but wales have done well on tour all credit to then and him but i fancy well get pasted sat!

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Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

South Africa side to face Wales: Damian Willemse; Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi; Handre Pollard, Jaden Hendrikse; Trevor Nyakane, Bongi Mbonambi, Frans Malherbe; Eben Etzebeth, Lood de Jager; Siya Kolisi (capt), Pieter-Steph du Toit, Jasper Wiese,

Replacements: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Franco Mostert, Kwagga Smith, Elrigh Louw, Faf de Klerk, Willie le Roux.


Agree, this side is as close as it gets to all guns blazing from the Boks. Just hoping we stay in the fight of this one! 

Lydiate to make 30+ tackles is a bet I’d take 
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