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reesytheexile ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 11 August 2012 Location: Machynys Status: Online Points: 15524 |
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 14673 |
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You make a very valid point. I posted yesterday that we we are not seeing the young players forcing their way through the system & that, in certain key positions we are being forced to pick the same guys who, even though they have been given every opportunity, are clearly not going to make the very top. Either that or we are still selecting guys of 34/5 because they are still better than the alternatives. That is not sustainable. I struggle to find a young 15 who is going to burst through in the next few years, likewise where is the 13 to take over from Foxy ( I had Cory Baldwin down for that role two years ago). Despite all his many talents Cawdor is not the answer at 9 but, for me, is our best option as Tomos is way too flaky against the better Internationals. Where are the young 9's??? I could go on and on position by position & the situation is the same - we have 4 10's in the squad, two are 34, one is 30+ & the other is not good enough. The situation gets more depressing when you look at Eddie Jones' squad which is bursting with young talent. Steward at 15 is a real prospect, Smith at 22 is already a Lion, Quirke & Randall at 9 will push hard ( Randall now replaced by Mitchell); Lynagh at 20 on the wing & it goes on. Players like Ford, Billy Vunipola, Mako & Jamie George would, in my opinion, walk into our starting 23 at the moment but are deemed not good enough against the top teams, not good enough to win the World Cup. |
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Fscarlet ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 26 January 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7224 |
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I find it really depressing that we struggle to develop our under 20 players into the senior squad.
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ladram ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 25321 |
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it will take hammerings in the autumn games and the 6 nations for the grabbers at the top of our game to realise that success at the top starts with strong roots at the bottom,50 point hammerings for regions has become the norm, i'm afraid that we are not far away from it becoming the same at the top,i know it's not easy to do something at regional level of breaking away but i feel we are far too quick to grab whatever crumbs the marie antionette's at the top throw us,it cannot continue so a revolution is the only way,there are some quite militant posters on here so ringleaders shouldn't be a problem
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 14673 |
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Yes Nigel perhaps those red cards in last season's 6 nations masked our real problems for yet another year. I fail to see any way we can beat SA or Australia this Autumn and the game against Fiji may actually find our real level on the World stage. How has it come to this? To many of us on this forum reaching the semi final of the Japan World Cup only muddied the waters of the state of professional rugby in Wales. For sure Welsh rugby missed a golden opportunity back in the 90's but we really need some clear thinking individuals to grab our game by the scruff of the neck and shake it out of its stupor.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 14673 |
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On the subject of an all court modern day 9. If Pivac wants a player who can box kick accurately, fizz flat passes from the breakdown & support the ball carrier then he should maybe look at a boy playing for Saracens - but oh wait a minute he cannot be selected because of some dumb self inflicted rule. Sometimes in life you just get what you deserve!!!!!!
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 14673 |
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"It's the fine details – not moving forward on kicks, executing our exits correctly and not putting pressure on ourselves.
Are these the words of our captain??? Foxy its not fine detail its the bloody basics, fine detail involves a little more intricacy like dummy runners and angles of running. We can't even get the basics right like not being 20 metres in front of the kicker. Never mind its much easier all round if we keep blaming the officials and the cheating opposition. Heads in the sand my giddy aunt!!!!!!
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ladram ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 25321 |
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another question i would add is why can't wales regional and international level produce a hooker who consistently hits his target? other nations can,is it too much gym and less basic skills?
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RR1972 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15785 |
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Why was ben thomas in the 23? Another cardiff sub who pivac seems to think is a top player,
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Fscarlet ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 26 January 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7224 |
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There are 2 of these players playing their rugby down the Liberty.
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dyniol53 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2018 Location: Llundain Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Yeah I’m not really sure why Sam Parry doesn’t get a look in.
Perhaps they’re just trying to recruit this Ulster hooker to regional rugby with a cap
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greypower1 ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 December 2010 Location: Pwll Status: Offline Points: 3515 |
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Surely it's down to repeated drills and practice verging on the obsessive. Johnny Wilkinson and Halfpenny spent hours practicing their goalkicking after training was over and often on non training days to ensure they got it right on the day. I doubt any of the Welsh hookers are as keen to perfect their throwing in skills. Just a question, When it was all going pear shaped on Saturday why didn't the lineout captain call for a shortened lineout or a throw to the front man for a bit of variation. Lack of original thinking or worried he'd be going against tha coach's plan? Did we have pack leader after AWJ went off?
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Keep the faith
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Why ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7446 |
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Until the professional game is run by professionals in Wales we will always be miles behind the best teams and I include England in that.
If we are happy being in the second or even third tier of world rugby then we carry on as we are. |
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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 14673 |
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Couldn't agree more.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 14673 |
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As a matter of interest who coaches the Welsh lineout - Humphries???? The most able lineout coach I have to say is Steve Borthwick & look at the job he is doing with the Tigers. Look no further the RFU if he continues when Eddie is gone. It, of course, isn't fair just to blame the hookers but they must take alot of the blame. Also as someone just posted our lack of variety when things are going wrong is startling. Securing good clean ball from your possession is vital - always was always will be.
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