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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2021 at 7:26pm
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No excuses if we don’t win with bonus point Munster obviously don’t rate us, let’s go out and show them they are wrong. 
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

No excuses if we don’t win with bonus point Munster obviously don’t rate us, let’s go out and show them they are wrong. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletnut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2021 at 9:33pm
That was awful but did people honestly think Dwayne was going to be able to sort everything out after a mere three games? There’s some serious underlying issues at the club and it’s going to take a significant amount of time for Dwayne to turn things around. 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by John John wrote:

I think there's a bit of rotation going on but in any case every time there's a change of coaching team, some faces don't fit that previously did.

Obviously we need to win the game, but why are they rotating their squad against us? A bit rich given the Irish complain that the league isn’t competitive enough and then rotate their squad to play away from home?

Maybe they think they’ll put 50 on us like Sale last year 

You can’t take it all out on Why, I couldn’t even see the game through all of the egg on my face 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote minded Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2021 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

That was awful but did people honestly think Dwayne was going to be able to sort everything out after a mere three games? There’s some serious underlying issues at the club and it’s going to take a significant amount of time for Dwayne to turn things around. 
There's a difference between expecting him to sort everything out after 3 games, and us getting hammered by that Munster side.

Your point generally though is a big part of why my interest has been waning over the last few years. When Pivac arrived, it took him 3 seasons to turn us into a league winning side and we got to enjoy the fruits of that labour for about a year before the union came knocking and, understandably, off went he and Stephen Jones.

It's just a cycle of: get a coach in and give them time to mold us while we loiter mid-table, if they're good they'll likely get lured to the international game once we look decent, or if they're not great we'll probably have to sack them. Rinse, repeat.
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

That was awful but did people honestly think Dwayne was going to be able to sort everything out after a mere three games? There’s some serious underlying issues at the club and it’s going to take a significant amount of time for Dwayne to turn things around. 
any idea when the likes of cubby and patchell are due back?
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Training will be interesting this week and intense sorting out why they played poorly 


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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

That was awful but did people honestly think Dwayne was going to be able to sort everything out after a mere three games? There’s some serious underlying issues at the club and it’s going to take a significant amount of time for Dwayne to turn things around. 
one of the biggest issues is a lack of investment in key areas like 2nd row.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Why Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2021 at 7:43am
Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

No excuses if we don’t win with bonus point Munster obviously don’t rate us, let’s go out and show them they are wrong. 
LOL
Some comments, however right they may have seemed at the time, just don't age well.

LOL
Stand by the comments if we want to be challenging then we should be beating second teams. We have bought backs to the point that we now are overstocked with wings and centres. Did we really need to get Scott and Conbeer back when the most obvious weakness are in the second and back row yet we bring in Price and an Osprey 5 th choice albeit for a month loan.
See Glasgow are looking at SA second row from Sale they can afford it surely we can. We could have if we hadn’t spent money on backs we didn’t really need. We are a shambles and everyone on here has pointed where we are lacking quality out why can’t the board. 
I’m going to Bordeaux but will enjoy the wine and little else unless things change drastically. 

She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

That was awful but did people honestly think Dwayne was going to be able to sort everything out after a mere three games? There’s some serious underlying issues at the club and it’s going to take a significant amount of time for Dwayne to turn things around. 
one of the biggest issues is a lack of investment in key areas like 2nd row.
I agree 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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People should not be surprised.Three disastrous seasons of mismanagement have produced the current squad.In that time international players have been over-indulged,favouritism has been rife,and sponsors or board members have had far too much influence over selection.The current squad is as much the product of the internal politics of the organisation as it is of any rugby wisdom.Peel and his colleagues have a mountain to climb,and nobody should doubt the size of the task.

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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

That was awful but did people honestly think Dwayne was going to be able to sort everything out after a mere three games? There’s some serious underlying issues at the club and it’s going to take a significant amount of time for Dwayne to turn things around. 
Not sure what you mean by serious underlying issues, but tackling* serious underlying issues sounds like a job that's bigger than any head coach.

*Apologies for using the word tackle this morning - very insensitive of me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2021 at 8:04am
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

No excuses if we don’t win with bonus point Munster obviously don’t rate us, let’s go out and show them they are wrong. 
LOL
Some comments, however right they may have seemed at the time, just don't age well.

LOL
Stand by the comments if we want to be challenging then we should be beating second teams. We have bought backs to the point that we now are overstocked with wings and centres. Did we really need to get Scott and Conbeer back when the most obvious weakness are in the second and back row yet we bring in Price and an Osprey 5 th choice albeit for a month loan.
See Glasgow are looking at SA second row from Sale they can afford it surely we can. We could have if we hadn’t spent money on backs we didn’t really need. We are a shambles and everyone on here has pointed where we are lacking quality out why can’t the board. 
I’m going to Bordeaux but will enjoy the wine and little else unless things change drastically. 

against leicester in the friendly we showed clear signs of "the scarlet way" of rugby with people offering themselves off both shoulders of the scrum half,yesterday time and again we saw kal pick the ball up go a few yards go to ground then someone else went a yard the ball would come back and we would kick it away or get penalised or turned over,which way are we trying to play?we are rubbish on the floor so why not try to play to our strengths which should be our backline,any team in the league would bite your hand off for our starting and finishing front rows and the board should have replaced jake as soon as they knew he was leaving, it's all well and good saying there's nobody out there that's because they've been bought up by boards with more foresight than ours.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2021 at 8:08am
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

No excuses if we don’t win with bonus point Munster obviously don’t rate us, let’s go out and show them they are wrong. 

LOL

Some comments, however right they may have seemed at the time, just don't age well.

LOL

Stand by the comments if we want to be challenging then we should be beating second teams. We have bought backs to the point that we now are overstocked with wings and centres. Did we really need to get Scott and Conbeer back when the most obvious weakness are in the second and back row yet we bring in Price and an Osprey 5 th choice albeit for a month loan.
See Glasgow are looking at SA second row from Sale they can afford it surely we can. We could have if we hadn’t spent money on backs we didn’t really need. We are a shambles and everyone on here has pointed where we are lacking quality out why can’t the board. 
I’m going to Bordeaux but will enjoy the wine and little else unless things change drastically. 



The mistake you have made on your working assumption, and you weren’t alone,was that this was a Munster 2nd team.


Regardless of that, losing at home and shipping 40 points to anyone is woeful.


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It felt like we went back to last season yesterday, time & time again we would have a runner with no support, so no one to clear out. I don't know an exact figure for sure but the amount of times we got turned over or pinged for holding on must have been fairly high. Though that may be due to us not having an effective second row, ala Jake, to come in & wipe out the would be jackler from the opposition. 

As someone else mentioned, we are crying out for a jackler at the breakdown & we offer very little threat of this. 


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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

No excuses if we don’t win with bonus point Munster obviously don’t rate us, let’s go out and show them they are wrong. 

LOL

Some comments, however right they may have seemed at the time, just don't age well.

LOL

Stand by the comments if we want to be challenging then we should be beating second teams. We have bought backs to the point that we now are overstocked with wings and centres. Did we really need to get Scott and Conbeer back when the most obvious weakness are in the second and back row yet we bring in Price and an Osprey 5 th choice albeit for a month loan.
See Glasgow are looking at SA second row from Sale they can afford it surely we can. We could have if we hadn’t spent money on backs we didn’t really need. We are a shambles and everyone on here has pointed where we are lacking quality out why can’t the board. 
I’m going to Bordeaux but will enjoy the wine and little else unless things change drastically. 



The mistake you have made on your working assumption, and you weren’t alone,was that this was a Munster 2nd team.


Regardless of that, losing at home and shipping 40 points to anyone is woeful.

In fairness to Why Wil it was a 2nd team. Look at the backs - 15. Haley, 14, Earls 13. Farrell 12. De Allende 11. Zebo 10. Carbury 9. Murray. That would be the recognised starting line up. Also missing Scannell, Kilcoyne, Beirne, O'Mahoney & Coombes from the pack so it is not wrong to describe it as a 2nd team. That the team selected followed their gameplan & gleefully accepted our weak defence around the fringes & out wide is to their credit and that of the coaches.

I do agree that some of that Munster team will be giving their more recognised squad colleagues serious pressure in the coming months. 
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