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    Posted: 19 September 2022 at 9:23am
My selection for next week :-

15. Nicholas 14. Rogers 13. Baldwin 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Hardy
1. Wyn 2. Ryan (C) 3. Javan 4. Jac Price/Morgan Jones 5. Sam 6. Fifita 7. McLoud 8. Sione

16. Daf 17. Steffan  18. Harri 19. Morgan/Tom Price 20. Blade 21. Blacker 22. Patchell 23. Scott
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Do we then toss a coin for the captaincy?
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Sorry just saw the "c" alongside Ryan.
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Sorry just saw the "c" alongside Ryan.

Yes Ryan to captain for me with Daf replacing him if he comes on. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

My selection for next week :-

15. Nicholas 14. Rogers 13. Baldwin 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Hardy
1. Wyn 2. Ryan (C) 3. Javan 4. Jac Price/Morgan Jones 5. Sam 6. Fifita 7. McLoud 8. Sione

16. Daf 17. Steffan  18. Harri 19. Morgan/Tom Price 20. Blade 21. Blacker 22. Patchell 23. Scott
Rogers has to be full back 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

My selection for next week :-

15. Nicholas 14. Rogers 13. Baldwin 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Hardy
1. Wyn 2. Ryan (C) 3. Javan 4. Jac Price/Morgan Jones 5. Sam 6. Fifita 7. McLoud 8. Sione

16. Daf 17. Steffan  18. Harri 19. Morgan/Tom Price 20. Blade 21. Blacker 22. Patchell 23. Scott
Rogers has to be full back 

I agree Steff when I think again. Perhaps Steff Evans could step in at 14. My selection was clouded a little by my desire to see Baldwin given a chance at 13. 
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15 rogers
14 baldwin
13 foxy
12 jonny
11 conbeer
10 cistello
9 hardy
1 wyn
2 daf
3 harri
4 tom p
5 lousi
6 fifita
7 josh
8 sioni

Steff, ryan, javon, jac/morgan, blade, cawdor, patch, eddie j
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15 Rogers 14 Baldwin 11 Conbeer
12 JBR 13 Foxy
9 Cawdor 10 Costelow 

1 Wyn 2 Hughes 3 O’Connor
4 M Jones 5 Lousi
6 Fifita 7 Macleod 8 Kalamafoni

16 Elias 17 Thomas 18 Javan 19 T Price 20 Blade 21 Hardy 22 Patchell 23 Scott

It’s week 2 and we’re already looking stretched with back 5 forwards, we need some good news here with Jac Price, Rawlins, Shingler, Davis, Tuipolotu out & potentially Lezana. Really need at least 2 if not 3 of those back now.

Some players didn’t cover themselves in glory this weekend but it was most of their first games so a small amount of slack can be given.
I see us defending for a lot of the game v Ulster so I can’t see too many changes other than injuries. I’d imagine both Wyn & O’Connor moving to the starting XV with Elias not being 100% stepping onto the bench.
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I think the injury to McNicholl has highlighted a squad weakness which I hope we are working on addressing for next season. Most on here seem to agree that Rogers is more suited to 15 than wing so if we do the right thing & select him at 15 we are left with a compromise to make elsewhere. Sadly Steff Evans does not possess the top end pace a winger should ideally have so we are left with Baldwin who has done nothing wrong when asked to play there previously.

However in the absence of Joe Roberts, Baldwin is the natural choice at 13 with Foxy sadly not looking as if he is going to re-capture his glory days. Therein lies our compromise. The omens are not great for Halfpenny returning to Lions form any time soon so we really do need to invest in an out and out winger leaving Rogers as our first choice 15 with McNicholl as his replacement & Nicholas next inline. 
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Ok the following Ulster players are in the emerging Ireland party which is attending a 3 day training block at the moment ahead of flying out to South Africa this weekend. They will therefore not be available against the Scarlets. 

Balacoune*, Doak*, Flannery, McDonald, McIlroy, Stewart Moore* - Backs
Izuchukwa**, Reid**, Stewart* - Forwards

* started against Connacht

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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

My selection for next week :-

15. Nicholas 14. Rogers 13. Baldwin 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Hardy
1. Wyn 2. Ryan (C) 3. Javan 4. Jac Price/Morgan Jones 5. Sam 6. Fifita 7. McLoud 8. Sione

16. Daf 17. Steffan  18. Harri 19. Morgan/Tom Price 20. Blade 21. Blacker 22. Patchell 23. Scott
Rogers has to be full back 

I agree Steff when I think again. Perhaps Steff Evans could step in at 14. My selection was clouded a little by my desire to see Baldwin given a chance at 13. 

Agree. I dont understand why there is a reluctance to play Baldwin at 13. He has played there rarely but always effectively. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I think the injury to McNicholl has highlighted a squad weakness which I hope we are working on addressing for next season. Most on here seem to agree that Rogers is more suited to 15 than wing so if we do the right thing & select him at 15 we are left with a compromise to make elsewhere. Sadly Steff Evans does not possess the top end pace a winger should ideally have so we are left with Baldwin who has done nothing wrong when asked to play there previously.

However in the absence of Joe Roberts, Baldwin is the natural choice at 13 with Foxy sadly not looking as if he is going to re-capture his glory days. Therein lies our compromise. The omens are not great for Halfpenny returning to Lions form any time soon so we really do need to invest in an out and out winger leaving Rogers as our first choice 15 with McNicholl as his replacement & Nicholas next inline. 
The weaknesses caused by us releasing a hat full of players with no one obviously brought in to replace them. E.g Tomi Lewis is now playing really well for Jersey. Lets hope he comes back like Hardy did. He was our next big thing before injury, then discarded. Fully appreciate budgets etc but to use a retail analogy, we still need stock on the shelves to create sales.
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Originally posted by Mr Lee91 Mr Lee91 wrote:

15 Rogers 14 Baldwin 11 Conbeer
12 JBR 13 Foxy
9 Cawdor 10 Costelow 

1 Wyn 2 Hughes 3 O’Connor
4 M Jones 5 Lousi
6 Fifita 7 Macleod 8 Kalamafoni

16 Elias 17 Thomas 18 Javan 19 T Price 20 Blade 21 Hardy 22 Patchell 23 Scott

It’s week 2 and we’re already looking stretched with back 5 forwards, we need some good news here with Jac Price, Rawlins, Shingler, Davis, Tuipolotu out & potentially Lezana. Really need at least 2 if not 3 of those back now.

Some players didn’t cover themselves in glory this weekend but it was most of their first games so a small amount of slack can be given.
I see us defending for a lot of the game v Ulster so I can’t see too many changes other than injuries. I’d imagine both Wyn & O’Connor moving to the starting XV with Elias not being 100% stepping onto the bench.
Yet we still didnt consider Will Boyde or Sam Lewis on 1 year deals. Rawlins isnt even in the equation for me, Dan is also sadly very injury prone and Shingler has suffered some awful problems in the last 2 years so he cant have a huge amount in the tank.
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I think the injury to McNicholl has highlighted a squad weakness which I hope we are working on addressing for next season. Most on here seem to agree that Rogers is more suited to 15 than wing so if we do the right thing & select him at 15 we are left with a compromise to make elsewhere. Sadly Steff Evans does not possess the top end pace a winger should ideally have so we are left with Baldwin who has done nothing wrong when asked to play there previously.

However in the absence of Joe Roberts, Baldwin is the natural choice at 13 with Foxy sadly not looking as if he is going to re-capture his glory days. Therein lies our compromise. The omens are not great for Halfpenny returning to Lions form any time soon so we really do need to invest in an out and out winger leaving Rogers as our first choice 15 with McNicholl as his replacement & Nicholas next inline. 
The weaknesses caused by us releasing a hat full of players with no one obviously brought in to replace them. E.g Tomi Lewis is now playing really well for Jersey. Lets hope he comes back like Hardy did. He was our next big thing before injury, then discarded. Fully appreciate budgets etc but to use a retail analogy, we still need stock on the shelves to create sales.

Tough choices for sure had to be made. It will take Dwayne another full season to get the squad balance, which he inherited, somewhere near to what he needs/wants. I didn't see much of Tomi Lewis I have to say but others have commented. Would his ability outweigh Steff Evans for instance. That was a call made by Dwayne. I am surprised that a player like Jonah Holmes was allowed to leave Welsh rugby. Whenever we played the Dragons he was a real handful. 
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

My selection for next week :-

15. Nicholas 14. Rogers 13. Baldwin 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Hardy
1. Wyn 2. Ryan (C) 3. Javan 4. Jac Price/Morgan Jones 5. Sam 6. Fifita 7. McLoud 8. Sione

16. Daf 17. Steffan  18. Harri 19. Morgan/Tom Price 20. Blade 21. Blacker 22. Patchell 23. Scott
Rogers has to be full back 

I agree Steff when I think again. Perhaps Steff Evans could step in at 14. My selection was clouded a little by my desire to see Baldwin given a chance at 13. 

Agree. I dont understand why there is a reluctance to play Baldwin at 13. He has played there rarely but always effectively. 

I doubt there's a reluctance to play Baldwin at 13,really.
The reason he and others don't get a chance is the same reason the blue headed seagull didn't get booked on Saturday.The same reason Bilko's mate,the 36 years young Doberman who's not played since we were hammered against Leinster,can still get on the front page of the Rugby Paper.The same reason Rogers will soon have to play 2nd fiddle at 15 to the most photographed absentee in Wales........a  côterie of  older players have too much power and influence in tbe game,and Gatsby is one of them.


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