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the wru board  also needs to be more  diverse and not so based around ex cardiff players 
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Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Could this be a catalyst to separate management of the professional game from hobby club influence?


The WRU should be split into 3
1) Professional game
2) Amateur Game
3) Stadium

Ok, have a CEO and small board as an overall management team but those three entities should not have any influence over each other.


Very much agree & love this!! 
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Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

£6m leaves us still looking up at the Scots and Italians, let alone the others

plus 2 big derbies and judgement day and an extra pro region so 40 more pro players available for regional and national selection..it also buys the regions more time to possibly find more money backers and gives a chance to big investors already involved like HOL 
There’s 23 NWQ players in Wales. Frankly that’s way too high, and doesn’t benefit the national team as it stands. Having 4 clubs with a significant NWQ component while other talent is in England or France isn’t working. Funding to bring them back and reduce NWQ reliance is a must.
Fair point there were 22 players based outside Wales in this season’s 6 nations squads for the senior and U20s.That is likely to increase next season with player movements.
Two of our more promising tight heads are bit part players in England.Giffin at Bath is struggling for game time partly due to the change in rules on match day squad composition in the Prem and Sam Scott has had 17 minutes of rugby in the Prem Cup with Bristol so far this season - although he is getting some game time at National League 1 level.
In the Prem the number of NEQ players is around 118 - close on 12 a team or double the close to 6 a team in Wales.
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He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.
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Originally posted by glyndwr glyndwr wrote:

Originally posted by skyblue skyblue wrote:

Originally posted by glyndwr glyndwr wrote:

It's ambition is found wanting when it comes to how to actually achieve these things when finance is brought up.


I'm sure that a number of people across social media will be championing it because it favours the 4 team model but it is lacking in how it would be executed.
Whether you agree with it or not they're appears to be a lot more detail than the WRU's plan. 

The devil is in the literal detail and so far, a lot of it is saying things just to appear well thought rather than actually being that. 

I'll carry on giving it a read in the AM but it's not filling with me any more hope and is just wordier than what the WRU have come up with.

The vast majority of this appears to be written by an AI/LLM and isn’t saying anything new that hasn’t been said by the WRU.

It might be an alternative but it isn’t a good one in my opinion. A lot of words but not a lot of detail on how things would be changed, just “what if this?” and “what if that?”.

70 pages and it feels like it was generated for the sake of being an alternative, rather than actually being one.
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Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.
The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.

We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh
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Agree completely on the AI drafting point. 

But what he has done has identified that there are trade offs with how you use the WRU funds. The strategy here is to keep 4 teams as well funded as possible, move funds away from SRC, women's game and pathways which combined with a bit of cost cutting and a bit more benefactor investment (but still less than they contribute now) gets you to 4 teams which are £0.9m down on funding compared to the 3 team model. 

The financial calcs are a bit finger in the air, but that's not his fault as he doesn't have access to the WRUs figures. 

What he's done is exposed two things:
1) The trade offs in how you use funds
2) The lack of evidence/rationale provided by the WRU to back their chosen option. For example this often cited £28m in pathway funding, nobody has any idea what that's being spent on, whether there's any evidence to say £28m is the right figure and what the alternative use of that funding is. 

What there is undoubted evidence for however is that the Welsh team has unprecedented success over 15 years, with 3 teams contributing the majority of players to that success. So it can and has worked It's therefore risky to remove one of those pillars of that success, and that's what people are intrinsically objecting to. 
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.

The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.

Agreed
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.
The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.

The  WRU plans also include a £5m efficiency saving so probably a direct lift from that and I think the £6m is a starting figure which is £400k less than than the WRU starting point on the 3 team model - so neither approach is likely to create the Welsh  Leinster if you apply equal funding.
Agree looks like an AI masterpiece.
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.
The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.

 why? if you are paying £15 million in admin costs a year , 14 per cent of your turn over you can look at huge savings there.  about time the wru got streamlined

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Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.

The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.
 
Agreed
 dangerousWink, the wru are one of the most wasteful businesses in terms of admin costs in wales. they are  running at circa 14 per cent an efficent business is 5 to 10 there is your £5 million there, this plan highlights the wasteful ness of the wru very well
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The WRU has produced the attached and the various embedded links give more information on the various pathway initiatives .
There is a lot of the expected management speak and probably AI content and if you want to remain sane don’t try to make the figures add up to what the WRU say they should be as that part makes government funding announcements  look transparent which is no small achievement .
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.

The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.
 
Agreed
 dangerousWink, the wru are one of the most wasteful businesses in terms of admin costs in wales. they are  running at circa 14 per cent an efficent business is 5 to 10 there is your £5 million there, this plan highlights the wasteful ness of the wru very well
Intake it you’ve read the whole document and agree with everything in it?
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Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

He's written that mostly using AI. He talks about £6m per region, with those funds we will be lucky to make top 8 every season let alone competing. He wants a job at the WRU and that's it, he was not selected once in 2020 for the CEO role. I wouldn't take any notice of his alternative strategy.

The funding is based on saving £5m in efficiencies which won’t happen. 
It’s a dangerous document.
 
Agreed
 dangerousWink, the wru are one of the most wasteful businesses in terms of admin costs in wales. they are  running at circa 14 per cent an efficent business is 5 to 10 there is your £5 million there, this plan highlights the wasteful ness of the wru very well
Intake it you’ve read the whole document and agree with everything in it?
ive read lots of it keep at 4, get buy in from benefactors and support from  govt and trim the fat at the wru. all sensible options what dont you like about it? what is the danger element in it? are peiple not allowed to voice their own views any more? why do you thinkmits a good idea the wru spend circa  £15 million on admin costs per annum?

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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by skyblue skyblue wrote:

Originally posted by glyndwr glyndwr wrote:

It's ambition is found wanting when it comes to how to actually achieve these things when finance is brought up.


I'm sure that a number of people across social media will be championing it because it favours the 4 team model but it is lacking in how it would be executed.
Whether you agree with it or not they're appears to be a lot more detail than the WRU's plan. 
It looks like that because of how it’s presented, but there’s a lot of amplification and referencing and comparing to the WRU plan. I’m not saying it’s unrealistic. Haven’t gone through in detail yet. 



Haven’t gone through it in detail but your first post dismisses it strange. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by dantheman dantheman wrote:

Agree completely on the AI drafting point. 

But what he has done has identified that there are trade offs with how you use the WRU funds. The strategy here is to keep 4 teams as well funded as possible, move funds away from SRC, women's game and pathways which combined with a bit of cost cutting and a bit more benefactor investment (but still less than they contribute now) gets you to 4 teams which are £0.9m down on funding compared to the 3 team model. 

The financial calcs are a bit finger in the air, but that's not his fault as he doesn't have access to the WRUs figures. 

What he's done is exposed two things:
1) The trade offs in how you use funds
2) The lack of evidence/rationale provided by the WRU to back their chosen option. For example this often cited £28m in pathway funding, nobody has any idea what that's being spent on, whether there's any evidence to say £28m is the right figure and what the alternative use of that funding is. 

What there is undoubted evidence for however is that the Welsh team has unprecedented success over 15 years, with 3 teams contributing the majority of players to that success. So it can and has worked It's therefore risky to remove one of those pillars of that success, and that's what people are intrinsically objecting to. 
Apparently they are lobbying to get the WRU to open their books
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