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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

I will be the first on here to stand by my prediction ...I've just had a cup of loftys blind dedication tea , emotion over fact ...and it tastes very nice loftificus 

And Gatland trusts your judgement ole Oracle. North and Tompkins back in the centre to try to contain Danty and Fickou and AWJ back in, and geriatric Webb v World class Dupont. ...smacks of damage limitation..not going out to win.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 March 2023 at 5:18pm
I feel unsure after listening to 2 great bastions of the prediction squad ...could I be wrong here , or is it just to much sugar ..a conundrum for sure
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

On another note which is the original topic have the Scarlets contracts been sorted and the WRU hand over the money for the privilege of having our players play to pay off their Hotel loan.

Just asking 

It's very close Lofty.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 March 2023 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

On another note which is the original topic have the Scarlets contracts been sorted and the WRU hand over the money for the privilege of having our players play to pay off their Hotel loan.

Just asking 

It's very close Lofty.
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

I will be the first on here to stand by my prediction ...I've just had a cup of loftys blind dedication tea , emotion over fact ...and it tastes very nice loftificus 

And Gatland trusts your judgement ole Oracle. North and Tompkins back in the centre to try to contain Danty and Fickou and AWJ back in, and geriatric Webb v World class Dupont. ...smacks of damage limitation..not going out to win.

It will be a cricket score.



Sadly I agree Lofty. Seeing Biggar’s name at 10 was pretty depressing to be honest 
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

On another note which is the original topic have the Scarlets contracts been sorted and the WRU hand over the money for the privilege of having our players play to pay off their Hotel loan.

Just asking 

It's very close Lofty.
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According to the BBC the Welsh regions have now been cleared to sign up new and existing players.
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Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

According to the BBC the Welsh regions have now been cleared to sign up new and existing players.

Thanks for this....but does it mean the dosh from the WRU Mafia been deposited into the Scarlets bank account. 


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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

According to the BBC the Welsh regions have now been cleared to sign up new and existing players.

Thanks for this....but does it mean the dosh from the WRU Mafia been deposited into the Scarlets bank account. 



I understand its been sent as a cheque, signed by someone called Dunlop!
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Talk now of an 8 team tier between the regions and the premiership. Teams to be decided partly by nomination, partly by application with RGC definitely in. Anybody know anything about this? Sounds like yet another dogs dinner in the making to me.
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There’s a brief outline in the WOL sort of makes sense and logic but the trough feeders would never vote for it
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Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

Talk now of an 8 team tier between the regions and the premiership. Teams to be decided partly by nomination, partly by application with RGC definitely in. Anybody know anything about this? Sounds like yet another dogs dinner in the making to me.

If its done properly with two of the 8 teams aligned with each of the 4 regions, and shared coaching and dually contracted players, this could be just what Welsh Rugby needs to provide a player development structure and promote a regional rugby culture. 
The biggest challenge will be agreeing which of the 8 existing Premiership teams are chosen. If one of the objectives is to promote regional rugby to the widest possible audience, there is probably a case for the Newport, Cardiff, Swansea and Llanelli RFC teams to be the ones to miss out.
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Originally posted by scarletabroad scarletabroad wrote:

There’s a brief outline in the WOL sort of makes sense and logic but the trough feeders would never vote for it

The prem sides are getting 60k from the union every year? We have 3 prem sides so 180k in total. So replace them with one or two sides, fully or more professional and fund them with 180k in total? Really? 

They'd need half a million each. That certainly won't get past the trough feeders.
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First Standard Contracts for Welsh rugby

The first Standard Contracts in Welsh rugby’s history have been tabled making existing and new offers now legally binding – the Professional Rugby Board (PRB) has confirmed.

Welsh rugby’s four professional sides have been making offers to players since February but the PRB and Welsh Rugby Players Association (WRPA) have now completed work together on Standard Contracts which have been presented to a number of players and their agents in the last 24 hours, with more to follow.

The Rugby Management Board (RMB) of the WRU and PRB members completed a significant amount of work on a new standard form contract and rights licence and received formal acceptance from the WRPA and players’ agents on Friday (17th March).

“This is a significant step forward in the process we are following which will secure a sustainable future for the professional game in Wales,” said PRB chair Malcolm Wall.

“A lot of hard work has gone into getting us to this stage and we are delighted to say our four professional sides are now in a position to offer legally binding contracts as necessary. 

“We remain hugely grateful to the players themselves for their patience and understanding and look forward now to the point where the full agreement can be signed which underpins the PRB’s strategy for the future of the game – a moment which this latest development proves is now closer than ever.

“A huge amount of credit should also go to the directors at each of our professional teams for ensuring that we reach this critical and pivotal stage for the game in Wales.” 

WRPA chief executive Gareth Lewis said: “Work has been ongoing for the past 12 months on producing new standard form contracts. 

“Following a productive consultation period I am pleased to finalise and approve the documents for our members. The last few weeks have highlighted the benefits of engaging with the players and the WRPA and how important the consultation process is. 

“I am pleased to conclude this process and now our focus is on supporting our members – those that continue within the game and also those transitioning to new career paths – as well as continuing to grow and develop the Association.

“I’d like to thank the members for their patience and on their behalf thank Mark Loosemore of Loosemores Solicitors for his invaluable guidance and support”

WRU interim CEO Nigel Walker added: “To be able to offer the first Standard Contracts in Welsh rugby’s history is an impressive show of unity for our game and much credit is due to the individual members of the PRB and RMB, to the WRPA, Welsh rugby’s agents and the players themselves and those directors at the regions who have stepped up to allow legally binding contracts to be signed before formal agreement on our long-term funding agreement itself is signed.

“Significant progress has been made and we are now very close to the end of this process, news that will provide a significant boost to everyone involved in the game in Wales.”

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 March 2023 at 11:32am
A PR-laden press release that is too self-congratulatory describing a place that we/they should have been at last year. Gareth Lewis expresses a more balanced tone.

Still, it is progress and is welcomed. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greypower1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 March 2023 at 11:41am
So it's  still not quite done and if for some reason the funding isn't  signed  off and delivered the Regions are stuck with honouring the player contracts. 
Let's  hope I'm being over alarmist.
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