The future of work

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220126-the-rise-of-the-anti-work-movement

totallybiasedscarlet wrote: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220126-the-rise-of-the-anti-work-movement Really interesting article here regarding the nature of work, how capitalism works and thoughts on how people might work in future. I have a strong feeling that much of the intellectual basis behind much of this is David Graeber's writing. He was one of the figures behind "Occupy Wall Street" and wrote a number of books including "Bullsh Jobs."  As always automation brings challenges in terms of sustaining jobs. We appear to be in the midst of another technological revolution. The challenge for government is to ensure gainful employment is sufficient numbers ... but is it necessary? Are all the jobs we do useful or meaningful? Could we find ways of using automation to reduce our hours at work? Underlying this are questions over ownership and systems of production.  A veritable can of worms but worth exploring.

RR1972 wrote: That’s a cheerful post dr m, as for the bbc post never read so much tosh in my life. Working with wounds? He’s in it not on the front line

 

I thought i had a fairly fatalistic outlook on life but compared to some on here i’m positvley bubbly. Robot roofers give the tradesman more time to study the form , boosting the local economy win win!

There is so much that needs doing that in a just world nobody should feel redundant or idle for many years to come. So much of the world is malnourished (or even starving) poorly housed (or without housing) live in pollution and squalor, are uneducated or illiterate, with no health service, or any of the other services taken for granted by the rich.
And to cap it all, climate change or war could make precarious even the lifestyles enjoyed by the rich.
Our first task should be to change the economic system that has given rise to these inequalities, not an easy task because the media, which guides our decisions, is owned by the rich and does its best rise to sow hatred and confusion in a desperate attempt to retain it's wealth and power and that of its rich friends.

dr_martinov wrote: reesytheexile wrote: RR1972 wrote: That’s a cheerful post dr m, as for the bbc post never read so much tosh in my life. Working with wounds? He’s in it not on the front line   The days of the robotic roofer are coming as the skilled tradesman sits at home twiddling his knobs ( of the remote machine I mean of course! 😂) What's particularly interesting about the current technological revolution is it is challenging many highly skilled and highly paid professions as well as traditional manual labour jobs. Surgeon, for example. Or even patient interactive roles like a GP. Even those that you'd have thought as of safe like software developers actually will find code can do their jobs pretty soon if this hasn't happened already.

dr_martinov wrote: totallybiasedscarlet wrote: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220126-the-rise-of-the-anti-work-movement Really interesting article here regarding the nature of work, how capitalism works and thoughts on how people might work in future. I have a strong feeling that much of the intellectual basis behind much of this is David Graeber's writing. He was one of the figures behind "Occupy Wall Street" and wrote a number of books including "Bullsh Jobs."  As always automation brings challenges in terms of sustaining jobs. We appear to be in the midst of another technological revolution. The challenge for government is to ensure gainful employment is sufficient numbers ... but is it necessary? Are all the jobs we do useful or meaningful? Could we find ways of using automation to reduce our hours at work? Underlying this are questions over ownership and systems of production.  A veritable can of worms but worth exploring. I think I read the original Bullpoo jobs essay about 3 or 4 years ago and it really impacted me. But then from a nihilistic point of view there isn't any meaning to existence anyway and pretty well all of our society is based around artificial constructs, or shared delusions if you like. Be it religion, politics, economics... no difference. They only have meaning because enough people believe they have meaning. In fact I now think that almost everything we do is simply about posturing against other people for our position in the social or economic order to achieve some sort of self-identity, including what job we do.

We need a more skilled more qualified less sickly work force tbh. By skilled i don’t just mean academically , tradesmen and women etc

Edited by RR1972 - 17 February 2022 at 6:25pm