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Let’s be honest it could be a good thing that AWJ, Tuperic, Moriaty and Webb are not going gives the youngsters a chance and as this World Cup is a free pass, no one expects us to do well, what have we got to lose. 

Why are the media not harassing the WRU regarding progress on the promised modernisation of the game in Wales?  Their silence is deafening.

Oracle wrote: GPR - Rochester wrote: Fscarlet wrote: Oracle wrote: Another player , who can't meet gatlands physical requirements....Jump ship before being embarrassed in public Given the squad has only just started to meet up, with some players not arriving yet, that's a bold thought.  More like the financial rewards don't meet the expectations of the players. All 4 players who have turned their backs on Wales so far are British Lions. Don't think you get to be a test Lion if you're afraid of getting fit!!!!!! I would agree with you if these players were in their prime , but anyone over 30 will struggle with the arobic requirements .....

Well the offer is reasonable , the point I'm trying to get over , maybe a little poorly is that maybe the desire is not there as these players have seen and done it numerous times , no more dog left . 

Oracle wrote: Scots and Irish already realise that they are in the best league already , a minority on here apparently want to join an English , but I think it's just hot air as there are no facts to back it up ....I think the players would agree with me though

GPR - Rochester wrote: Oracle wrote: Well the offer is reasonable , the point I'm trying to get over , maybe a little poorly is that maybe the desire is not there as these players have seen and done it numerous times , no more dog left .  Let me give you an example , I spent some time at a husky farm inside northern Finland not do long ago , and looking at the puppies sleeping outside at minus 40 , every morning they wanted to start pulling the carts , the desire was huge in them ...They would be like this every morning until the age of 9 or 10 , when they reached this age , they would cower down and not want to pull ...They had reached their end of working , nothing could be done .....I see the osprey players mentioned reaching that point of the old husky ..... Regarding your request , I would like the people requesting the fitness beasting to speak to your own drs first , as I've noticed that a lot of you are consuming over 30,000 calories a day on the food and wine post ....I do another course on ..managing gout which I thought would be more advantageous to most posters  Sign me up for the gout course Mike - do you travel as I have difficulty walking.  P.S. I like the husky story.

the course that deals with gout , is quite intense and can take a few days to digest , so I would be prepared to break it down into smaller sound bites ...I think the format is described as ..baby step 

Oracle wrote: Gate12 wrote: Oracle wrote: Scots and Irish already realise that they are in the best league already , a minority on here apparently want to join an English , but I think it's just hot air as there are no facts to back it up ....I think the players would agree with me though  What's your metric for measuring the best league? I can't find many 'facts' to back that up. I origionally based it apon international success ...The URC currently have the world cup champions and the number 1 side in the world . I also then had to add in European success , where we have Leinster , Munster and I would imagine a south African winner in the next few years ...Our players in the regions are being exposed to these players and the mechanism that produced them week in week out....For young players , flying to South Africa for 2 weeks every year , develops their character and confidence and takes them out of the little bubble of South Wales ... Travelling to Capetown is a much better option than driving to Newcastle ... I can understand supporters wanting closer games across the border , but I think people are dreaming of going to these grounds 30 years ago ...Currently it's easier to get to Leinster or Edinburgh than sale , but how many would actually travel . Remember this year's game between Saracens and Leinster had the smallest crowd of the competition , not encouraging is it .. My belief is that I would rather focus on the players being developed by competent varied opposition than a potential piss up in bath or Bristol

I thought you wanted facts , which I thought I had supplied then you supply figures without facts .....If you went back long enough there would be figures that you could find to support any and every view point ...I tried to keep mine within the last decade , whilst England have won the world cup once , we have the current champions who have won it twice so far and potentially Ireland as a first time winner ...I agree with John over this , we need to identify ourselves as a separate union , not an appendage of a failing system that is self imploding .....we actually need to follow the cymru football team and reinvent ourselves...