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scarletpimp View Drop Down

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 5:05pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

The way to cut asylum seekers . Refugees, economic migrants os to make life better in the countries they are leaving. Goodness know how though , there is a huge shortage of food health care housing and education in these plAces. Not to mention huge levels of corruption and hardships most of us will never know hopefully none pf us.  Places like afgan and libya are a nightmare but places like burundi and mAwali are even worse

I agree RR good point( I have thanked you for the post)you have highlighted the problems 
The complexities of what goes on in many countries, such as political instability(including civil wars ), famine due to changing world climate, poor health care provision in Africa, its particularly bad.
As I said in my initial post, my knowledge of the situation has only increased due to the detailed bulletins provided by the Red cross I get by email, otherwise I would no idea.

The frightening thing is that the Tory right ( which could well be in poll position soon), led by Braverman, Rees -Mogg , Truss, etc etc/ want to totally decimate the foreign aid budget, which is already under pressure.

Its difficult in places like Llanelli, where in the school holidays single parents have difficulty feeding their children , pensioners worry about heating their homes in winter and we see people sleeping rough in the streets. It hurts to see this , and its very easy for any individual to go on the downward spiral, particularly when there is an increase in mental health.
The cost of living crisis is also hurting us , and some will say , understandably "charity starts at home.
I would not want us to do anything if it at the expense of the poor  vulnerable in the uk.

I would stress however, the excellent point made above by RR, that we have a moral responsibility as a developed nation to help those in need.
Not only would it take a step to addressing the migrant crisis, but also we would be a lot safer as a result.
Extremists who wish to harm us will radicalise individuals. one cannot predetermine how and why exactly this happens, but one thing for sure that poverty and exploitation, go hand in hand.
Dictators and terrorists will manipulate the weak to their own ends. Boko Haram in Africa were terrified about the education of women and targeted schools and the Taliban have done the same.

Its in our interests that we commit to fighting poverty , and ensuring the those who are suffering are given a "hand up, not a hand out"

Thanks again RR
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 hours 13 minutes ago at 7:10am
Admirable sentiments both but are they realistic? How long does the burden of being a colonising nation last? When the West, mainly through US intervention, seeks to change things in struggling countries they end up being castigated due to lack of planning, no exit strategy etc. 

It is time I think to realise that, despite being very fortunate to live where we are - despite the absolute horlicks that the tory government are making of running our country, we cannot begin to control what happens in other countries whether that is via aid or intervention. The West have absolutely no way of controlling what aid money is spent on despite what is said. We have the very unseemly story of India becoming one of the biggest players in the space Industry while holding their hands out for as much foreign aid as they can to try to tackle the systemic poverty within. 

It is high team for us to look within - childhood poverty at record levels, NHS waiting lists record levels, food bank usage record levels & still we brainlessly forge on with vanity projects like HS2 which even robs the Welsh government of £5 billion because a few travellers from Llandudno junction can get to the smoke 20 minutes quicker. It is bloody madness & is tantamount to me investing in a Ferrari while my kids get school meals. 

Don't even get me started on the US problems. The message is abundantly clear - many so called rich countries found their way to some sort of democratic state through violent protest - US civil war, French revolution etc. It will never happen through forced regime change from outside or foreign aid but from within. 
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