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Gone for a big juicy italian barolol any food recos with that? Looks a spag bol and some crusty bread seen a good combo


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[QUOTE=RR1972]Gone for a big juicy italian barolol any food recos with that? Looks a spag bol and some crusty bread seen a good combo[/QUOT

Spag bol good also nice with a coq au vin or pork and chorizo cassoulet. 
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What are we enjoying this weekend??
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This weekend might see some Bordeaux Rosé although there’s some Bordeaux red from one of the smaller and lesser known areas that might come into play.

Went to Chateau Vandenbeld, the Dutch owned vineyard 15 mins away, last night for dinner and all the wine you could drink. It’s a Bergerac vineyard and is probably the most north and westerly in the region. It’s a surprise it’s not in the Bordeaux catchment area. Mrs EO volunteered to drive.

An outdoor table of 16 all eating together chatting made for a convivial occasion. 4 Dutch couples, 1 Czech couple and us plus 4 from the host family. Everyone was very chatty. The Czech couple were on their way from their home in southern CZ to their apartment in Portugal. They love their wine and do 800kms a day stopping in nice places - this weekend in Haro as they adore Rioja - it’s cheaper in CZ than French wine for some reason.

We got the story of the vineyard’s 500 year plus history and how they have developed the site. Some good stories of local life and how much more flexible and enjoyable life is here compared to their old profession of selling cheese in Holland. Also, difficulties in marketing a non-French owned vineyard locally. They’ve got wine in only a couple of restaurants nearby. Slowly, though, they’re being accepted. They plan to launch a french-named wine that links back to the heritage of the place. That should do well.

Their place is on booking.com and some of the Dutch folk had stayed there a few times before.

They produce 2 dry whites, 1 rose, 3 different fizzies, 3 red plus in co-operation with another enterprise, some cognac (didn’t get to try that).

The white blend (Sauvignon & Semillon iirc) was very nice. The single grape in the acacia barrel was fruitier but probably needed food with it for best effect. 

The 3 reds were very good indeed, especially the 2015 100% Merlot.

As with all good dos, it can be best to leave early still wanting more and our dogs provided us with that reason. Everyone else was staying overnight and I can imagine it didn’t finish until midnight or so.

Planning to return with friends a week on Monday for another dinner and more tasting.

Their prices are more than the typical Bergerac and while happy to buy  in their summer sale, I want to make sure of my choices first plus have some friends whose opinions I value.


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Did you converse in english eo? Or can you get by in french? I have gome duluc de branaire st julien looking forward!
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Did you converse in english eo? Or can you get by in french? I have gome duluc de branaire st julien looking forward!
In reverse order, St Julien is very good although for me I get Pauillac and its superb qualities each and every time. Maybe I should try harder with St JulienWink

Last night’s conversation was in English when it was everyone talking, although there were conversations in Dutch, naturally enough. The Czech couple were outgoing, although only the wife spoke decent English. I did brush the dust off the distant memory of my Czech vocabulary (went to Prague half a dozen times) that couldn’t string a sentence together but had key words like beer, good, please thanks etc and ice cream. 

Always had an interest in and ability in languages. It was something that piqued my interest when at school. Quite a few subjects didn’t interest me or I couldn’t relate to in a practical manner. Choosing to do French A-level was almost an afterthought. However, thanks to that grounding and much practice including many visits, I’m fluent and gave a 5 mins speech in French in a restaurant at Xmas for Mrs EO’s birthday do to which we invited lots of folk we’ve known for years. 

However, when it’s a different subject and you’ve no vocabulary (eg ordering a power cable for a computer over the phone), it can get hilarious. At those times, good grammar isn’t going to help you.

We had a superb light lunch - a spinach risotto with white wine and topped wish some small fish fillets called vives that I’ve not yet tracked down the translation of. Dictionaries and fish translations are not good bedfellows.

Tonight, it was just a plate of cheese - Bethmale chevre (goat), St Nectaire (from the Auvergne) and some Bleu that’s been around so long (3 or 4 weeks) the ink has run off the label. The weather’s been a bit hot for much of a cheese appetite. 

The wine accompaniment from the little known Bordeaux area is a Sainte Foy Bordeaux.

Chateau Claribes Old vine Malbec from 2011 has gone very well with it. The vineyard is English expat owned and we had a tour a year or so ago as part of an animal charity fund raising visit and lunch. 

This post would’ve taken less time to complete had I not had to defend my last bit of blue cheese from the ever so cute cocker spaniel. For his size, he’d be a brilliant line out exponent. Think stretched Aaron Shingler.

He’s developed his rear leg muscles and subtlety in equal measure so we’ve no idea when he’s going to launch a speculative mission in pursuit of the cheese scent lingering on the table.






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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Did you converse in english eo? Or can you get by in french? I have gome duluc de branaire st julien looking forward!
In reverse order, St Julien is very good although for me I get Pauillac and its superb qualities each and every time. Maybe I should try harder with St JulienWink

Last night’s conversation was in English when it was everyone talking, although there were conversations in Dutch, naturally enough. The Czech couple were outgoing, although only the wife spoke decent English. I did brush the dust off the distant memory of my Czech vocabulary (went to Prague half a dozen times) that couldn’t string a sentence together but had key words like beer, good, please thanks etc and ice cream. 

Always had an interest in and ability in languages. It was something that piqued my interest when at school. Quite a few subjects didn’t interest me or I couldn’t relate to in a practical manner. Choosing to do French A-level was almost an afterthought. However, thanks to that grounding and much practice including many visits, I’m fluent and gave a 5 mins speech in French in a restaurant at Xmas for Mrs EO’s birthday do to which we invited lots of folk we’ve known for years. 

However, when it’s a different subject and you’ve no vocabulary (eg ordering a power cable for a computer over the phone), it can get hilarious. At those times, good grammar isn’t going to help you.

We had a superb light lunch - a spinach risotto with white wine and topped wish some small fish fillets called vives that I’ve not yet tracked down the translation of. Dictionaries and fish translations are not good bedfellows.

Tonight, it was just a plate of cheese - Bethmale chevre (goat), St Nectaire (from the Auvergne) and some Bleu that’s been around so long (3 or 4 weeks) the ink has run off the label. The weather’s been a bit hot for much of a cheese appetite. 

The wine accompaniment from the little known Bordeaux area is a Sainte Foy Bordeaux.

Chateau Claribes Old vine Malbec from 2011 has gone very well with it. The vineyard is English expat owned and we had a tour a year or so ago as part of an animal charity fund raising visit and lunch. 

This post would’ve taken less time to complete had I not had to defend my last bit of blue cheese from the ever so cute cocker spaniel. For his size, he’d be a brilliant line out exponent. Think stretched Aaron Shingler.

He’s developed his rear leg muscles and subtlety in equal measure so we’ve no idea when he’s going to launch a speculative mission in pursuit of the cheese scent lingering on the table.







Great tales EO - I can certainly relate to the cocker. Our two springers didn't give me an ounce of peace when eating our BBQ last night. The comparison with Aaron is spot on. LOL
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Just back from St Emilion - see post on the Welsh Coach thread.

The newcomer to the winegrowers in the area was not well-received in the early days (1990ish). He was a bit pushed for space and started pressing his wine in a large garage. 1991 vintage was an awful year with the very difficult weather, late frosts etc. However, the newcomer’s wine escaped and was one of the very few decent vintages for sale, maybe the only one depending on who tells the story.

Chateau Valandraud was the must have 1991 vintage and being a small production at the time, the price soared. Future years’ production went very well as a result and expansion has continued ever since. Our electrician has recently been involved on a big project for them, too.

The new upstart vineyard had things in common with Apple, Google, possibly Faceboook and a few other mega business now - all started in a garage, or similar.

The owner was an ex-banker who comes from nearby where our place is. The vineyard was in a valley (Val) and Andraud was his wife’s maiden name and that’s how the vineyard got its name.

Referring to himself as the Bad Boy of St Emilion because of those early days when not just the weather was frosty, he’s launched a range of wines under the Bad Boy brand. A sheep is standing leaning on a bicycle by a sign pointing to the garage (see above). The design is fun and the wine is very good. They do a couple of reds with different grape varieties, a couple of whites, rosé and sparkling white and rosé. Sheep figure highly in the branding in other ways too.

There’s Bad Boy, Bad Girl, Baby Bad Boy and maybe another one or two. Here’s the link to the Brady Boy wine range, in French only with pictures http://https://www.thunevin.com/badboy-co However, if you click on the wines, you can get the info in English.

Looking forward to having a longer tasting and swallowing the product. I was driving today.

If you’re interested, here’s the link to the English website http://https://valandraud.fr/en/ although there’s only limited stuff in English before it returns to the native tongue. BTW, the Clos du Beau-Pere (Father in Law) is a very drinkable Pomerol.

Please note that St Emilion wine can only be red. Anything else has to be a Bordeaux, or if it’s really different to the rules for the Bordeaux appellation, it will be a Vin de France. We’ve had their 2nd white and it has been extremely good.

They also do an €8 Roussillon that’s very light easy drinking in warm weather. Didn’t buy any although our friends did.

We’re going back there when our next visitors arrive so may well remedy that omission.
 
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Spunds ideal that eo, never had a bad st emilion the lovely weather must help to, throw in good food your living the dream

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