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Originally posted by dantheman dantheman wrote:

Oh no... That's dampened our trip to the play offs. 

On any objective metric we would be safe: results, infrastructure, stable group of investors, assets, getting players in the Welsh team etc. 

I don't trust the WRU to do anything objectively. 

The Drags should absolutely undoubtedly be binned. Worst results by far, worst attendances by far, worst development record by far etc. 

I worry we'll be merged with the Ospreys, but hopefully the outcome of that would be playing 90% of our games at PyS because the Ospreys don't actually have a stadium. 

 It’s also grossly problematic for the O’s who are in the middle of moving to St Helens and spending money/ lifting fans etc on the move. What a dithering inept bunch the WRU are!
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We’ve shown impeccable timing in getting our act together and finishing as the top Welsh club in the URC. 

By any performance metric, whether looking at one year or twenty one years of data, the Dragons are the team that should be cut if we are to be reduced to three. The WRU have made an absolute howler in allowing them to go back into private hands if that is their plan. There is no comparison in the contribution made to Welsh rugby between the Ospreys and Dragons since their formation, yet it seems the Ospreys are in the most precarious position.

There will again be pressure for us to merge with them to allow the two East Wales clubs to continue. I hope we resist with the same vigour we did in 2002/03. 
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

We’ve shown impeccable timing in getting our act together and finishing as the top Welsh club in the URC. 

By any performance metric, whether looking at one year or twenty one years of data, the Dragons are the team that should be cut if we are to be reduced to three. The WRU have made an absolute howler in allowing them to go back into private hands if that is their plan. There is no comparison in the contribution made to Welsh rugby between the Ospreys and Dragons since their formation, yet it seems the Ospreys are in the most precarious position.

There will again be pressure for us to merge with them to allow the two East Wales clubs to continue. I hope we resist with the same vigour we did in 2002/03. 
Absolutely agree. I hate to see it for Dragons fans, but they bring the least to the table. Their best players will find contracts in Wales. Across the board all four clubs have too many contracted that really aren’t pro standard. Reducing to 3 would allow more squad depth and focus on solid players in each spot. We’d easily benefit from Ben Carter and perhaps SLH at 6.
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Let's be clear the timing is the usual impeccable WRU poo show.

We are in the players offs and this is leaked, imparted, farted poo show that is the WRU. 

If Cardifffff had sneaked their way into the play offs nothing would have been released.

Jeez the incredible gifted talented City mutants would never be knee capped by their illustrious bosses and of course the historian depth of clown faced Abbi " i don't know much about rugby, but i spend my pay cheque with vigour and integrity "....

Screw the WRU lets get into the English league. 




Edited by lofty evans - 18 May 2025 at 6:58am
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"
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The WEU are a bunch of shameless corrupt incompetent fools and that’s the good ones. It will be a merger between us and the Ospreys.
If the Ospreys go watch Cardiff be given all their best players, it will be our punishment for not signing agreement,  remember when the warriors went we got shafted then as well. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

The WEU are a bunch of shameless corrupt incompetent fools and that’s the good ones. It will be a merger between us and the Ospreys.
If the Ospreys go watch Cardiff be given all their best players, it will be our punishment for not signing agreement,  remember when the warriors went we got shafted then as well. 


Grudgingly if the Os are merged with us ....that would be one hell of a side tbh and will create a super club which is not what the WRU actually want.....they want the Blue mutants to be everything. 

They never will be .
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

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Join English league, even if it's lower leagues at first and then demand compensation  for welsh players off wru with player release like eng clubs have

Edited by shocker - 18 May 2025 at 7:45am
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

The WEU are a bunch of shameless corrupt incompetent fools and that’s the good ones. It will be a merger between us and the Ospreys.
If the Ospreys go watch Cardiff be given all their best players, it will be our punishment for not signing agreement,  remember when the warriors went we got shafted then as well. 

Spot on with that comment

Grudgingly if the Os are merged with us ....that would be one hell of a side tbh and will create a super club which is not what the WRU actually want.....they want the Blue mutants to be everything. 

They never will be .
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Originally posted by shocker shocker wrote:

Join English league, even if it's lower leagues at first and then demand compensation  for welsh players off wru with player release like eng clubs have

I agree
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"
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With a smaller pool of players National Side will fail !
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We can’t just decide to join the English system in any capacity. Both the RFU and WRU would have to agree to it. As would PRL.

There is no professional rugby in Llanelli without WRU backing. The economics of the game just don’t allow for that. Would be the same at Saracens or Bath.

On the other hand, when it comes to any sort of bidding process, we are in the strongest position. More support than Os or Dragons, way more successful than Dragons, actually have a secure, top quality stadium unlike the Os (Or Cardiff, not that they are going anywhere)
We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh
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Originally posted by Llanelliman Llanelliman wrote:

With a smaller pool of players National Side will fail !
Like they are now LOL
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Originally posted by Llanelliman Llanelliman wrote:

With a smaller pool of players National Side will fail !

It's just ludicrous they think it will strengthen the game.....larger pool of players, larger opportunities for the talented unknowns to prosper.....insane stupidity from a reckless organisation designed for self interest. 
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Llanelliman Llanelliman wrote:

With a smaller pool of players National Side will fail !
Like they are now LOL


Yes but spectacularly failing.
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

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They’ve been pushed to this point by NatWest and by having bailed out Cardiff, a deal they’re going to be under water on.

Unsaid in the reporting:
- They have “activated the two-year notice on the old PRA”, but to whom? Just a board decision? Notified the URC, EPCR, the teams?
- Is it rescindable?


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All I see on the horizon is years of bitter, acrimonious and legal dog fighting.

The WRU have to navigate the legality within the current agreement of propping up a region that would have gone in to liquidation, within weeks of triggering a clause to close another one.

The qualifying criteria for who stays and who goes will be laced with ambiguity and interpretation challenges.

The only somewhat peaceful outcome would be a voluntary merger.
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