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Sandman ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 02 October 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1388 |
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Maybe our poor, inconsistent play is down to a continually revolving door of coaches? This post isn’t in defence of Glenn just a question. Is another coach with different ideas and back room staff the right answer or stay where we are and gather some continuity?
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PE SA ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 July 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12331 |
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But that's just it. They aren't coaching a backline full of internationals. They are coaching 3rd or 4th choice players with academy lads. I think this season the forum (unless 6N is moved) is being a tad unrealistic in our approach. At the end of the day, what matters most? Playing pretty or winning? If we can win and play pretty then great. But this season is a season where we are without upto 20 players. Look at the side that backline v treviso... Is that a backline that can play and attack and score tries? Personally, imo on paper it's possibly one of the weakest backlines in the league. 3rd choice 9, 3rd choice 10, 2nd choice 12, 3rd choice 13... I'm not sure what people expect here. Much has been said about our strength in depth. We have it in some positions, but 9, 12, 13, 15 we don't have it. The backs played some decent stuff last year with the same attack coaches. Its time we all accept that this is a season of bedding in youngsters and giving them game time. That backline we have for the rest of the season... The only ones to come in are Prydie, Conbeer and untried Roberts, Knott, Costellow and Homer. We also have Brew (not sure if it's for the season or not).
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 12175 |
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PE SA you make very reasonable points. However it is not all about personnel but about style of play. Brad appeared to be an attack minded coach - Delaney does not appear to be. The tone is set from the top down. Blacker unfortunately had a poor game - lets be fair every 9 has experienced that and as long as he learns thats fine. However to see AOB, who is a lively natural runner dropping back time and again and putting up the bomb was heart breaking. I would gladly write off this season if we reverted to our attacking width gamer and gave a our young guns licence to play. A backline of Blacker/Homer, AOB/Costellow, Asquith/Knott, Tyler/Roberts, Steff, Conbeer, Pryide, Rogers may not be packed with Internationals but is good enough to hold its own during the International breaks as long as we play with pace, tempo & flair.
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shocker ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 October 2011 Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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We have been embarrassingly poor in the first 3 games. A question was asked how many of the next 5 we will win. If we play like this, I can only see 1 win. I know it is early, but with the need to secure Euro rugby next year, we need a change somewhere.
Could be either personnel or different approach of playing
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Mr Ian ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 06 February 2012 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
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We play with a 3 2 1 1 structure, differentely last years we have a back line so close to our forward line, as many teams did. This is used when in team there arent strong phisicall players and want to fine the break with line runs.
For do this job need strong forward, rapid recycle of the ball and spedd scrum half pass...unfortunately at the Moment miss all and coaches need time to work on..
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Mike ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 16 August 2004 Location: Cardiff Status: Offline Points: 21962 |
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Last night yes, but we’ve had decent availability for Toulon, Munster and Glasgow. I accept it’s early days, but the attacking structure and certain selection decisions ring alarm bells for me. Notwithstanding the performances so far, I don’t think the two attack coaches have the pedigree for where we need to be, regardless.
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judith ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 06 October 2004 Location: Gogledd Cymru Status: Offline Points: 1162 |
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This.
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PE SA ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 July 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12331 |
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Yes agree with that GPR. It seemed to be the game plan. I am hoping it's going to be a game by game basis. We can't attack all the time. How many times have we been crying on here as we have no second game plan. Could this be a bit of us building that? That's not coming over night I know. I may be being too positive. But winning ugly is something we have barely done. We have played better than last night and lost heavily. Whilst it was not pleasing on the eye the win was there. The defence was there. The character was there. I'm sure the debutants through the side and first career starts through the side last night will take big confidence from that. It's now a platform for momentum to build. the pack needs a lot of coaching obviously as we haven't had one for years. Maybe that's the issue. Most of the time so far has gone into that area as the coaches know the players won't need much time on the training field to click in attack when that game plan is called upon. What worried me last night though was basic skills in the backs. However, I'll put it down to confidence and no momentum. We have the win now. So hopefully we can now build from last night. I hope we don't chop and change the backline through the season as that won't be good for us at all. Already about to go in to a 4th league game with a 4th different backline now that Liam will be heading to Welsh camp.
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shocker ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 October 2011 Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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There is no excuse, we were poor again last night, just like our previous 2 games. We have worked hard over the previous years to get to a competitive side that reaches play offs etc and up until now it's not good enough.
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Rob o'r Bont ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Dr. Optimist Joined: 03 May 2008 Location: Bont Status: Offline Points: 13391 |
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I don't think it's time for change at all. We started off with confidence and purpose and if Sanjay has caught that ball early on, he was clear under the posts - 7 points up in the first few minutes. I honestly think all we needed was a good positiver start.
We very rarely win away to Benneton. Good Scarlets sides have gone out ther and lost. Coming away with a win, especially given how poorly we played is a huge positive in my book. Lets see how the team performs now, with a win under their belts and lets leave talk about change for another day.
Edited by Rob o'r Bont - 24 October 2020 at 3:18pm |
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shocker ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 October 2011 Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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I don't think it's the results are the problem, it's more like the way we play and lack of ambition on the field with the kick away.
I could be wrong thou
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EJPT ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 February 2012 Location: Berkshire Status: Offline Points: 2516 |
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Times are weird at the moment can’t see a coaching change this early would do well for morale or make the scarlets an attractive place to come for prospective coaches in the future. Very Premier league Soccer attitude.
A win is a win, perhaps we should have lost this game but we got the rub of the green. Competition in the squad is something I think needs to change, some players look like they are cruising. Others look like they are playing for the badge.
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ScarletBear ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 25 May 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3017 |
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I have seen this comment dozens if times the past week. It's an utter crock. We have had many more seasons where we started poorly and continued the season the same way. I have never called for our coach's head before, but his whole strategy is poor. The question is who will replace him if we do chop Delaney.
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Scarlets before Wales
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Feverpitch ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 December 2016 Status: Offline Points: 351 |
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As much as I liked Brad and his infectious nature and efforts to immerse himself in the locality, I didn't see anything he did to improve the players individually or as a team last season. In fact I believe they went backwards in style under him compared to Pivac and were poor last year.. good to see Delaney keeping up his good work !!!
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Eastern outpost ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 March 2012 Location: South Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 17419 |
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We’re just back from ours having had a lovely time and the slough of despond from last night has faded slightly if no further than that. After Sanjay’s dropped try chance, the spark of any life in the backline seemed to have been snuffed out. Coincidence, probably, or a measure of confidence and freedom to play heads up rugby.
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scarletnut ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 13054 |
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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