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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

While the WRU are holding on to our competition money and not using their huge asset base to finance the pro game, it would not at all be surprising that signings expectations have been on a rocky road.

Our Board have a responsibility to keep us trading, solvent etc even if there’s a stranglehold on our financial windpipe.

It’s no surprise the signings news is muted.

Totally understandable as you've pointed out EO. Staying afloat next season after the year we have had will be an achievement in itself. The WRU are not fit for purpose to run a professional game with annual revenues, in normal circumstances, approaching £100m. Regions/club whatever you wish to call them will never prosper while the current relationship persists.

The prospects are pretty dire frankly and have been made no better by the recent announcement that Steve Phillips has now been appointed as full time CEO. Blind leading the blind comes to mind. The 4 regions/clubs need to get their undoubted management skills together and provide a united front against the WRU. The reality which the WRU seem to ignore is that no regions/clubs = no professional rugby in Wales = no £100m income with which to pursue their Hotel and other non rugby projects. 
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I watched the Ospreys win over Leinster.Their forwards did well from the start,but they were severely handicapped by the play of Price at 10,who was as wooden as a totem-pole.Dan Evans at 15 was not good either.Josh Thomas coming on added some spark.They have some good youngsters,and I'm startng to be a little convinced by their "going places"narrative.

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Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

I watched the Ospreys win over Leinster.Their forwards did well from the start,but they were severely handicapped by the play of Price at 10,who was as wooden as a totem-pole.Dan Evans at 15 was not good either.Josh Thomas coming on added some spark.They have some good youngsters,and I'm startng to be a little convinced by their "going places"narrative.

Totally relevant for an Ospreys forum, can’t  see the connection with Tnewsday signings thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dic Penderyn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 March 2021 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by Rob Hunt Rob Hunt wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

I watched the Ospreys win over Leinster.Their forwards did well from the start,but they were severely handicapped by the play of Price at 10,who was as wooden as a totem-pole.Dan Evans at 15 was not good either.Josh Thomas coming on added some spark.They have some good youngsters,and I'm startng to be a little convinced by their "going places"narrative.

Totally relevant for an Ospreys forum, can’t  see the connection with Tnewsday signings thread.

Really?I'm not going to spell it out:it's far too depressing.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Shingler's ability shines through playing at 6 with his lineout athleticism, wonderful hands & pace to play in the wide channels scoring tries as he did on Monday. Playing 2nd row he would not feature out wide & he isn't really heavy enough for that position.
Maybe if he had a big bruiser alongside him but losing Ball and Ratuva means we a bit light in that department
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  We desperately need a lump at 4, to carry the hard yards ie Jake .
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Surely we must be looking to bring in second row in with both Jake and Tex departing? 
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There's not really any question about whether we'll be looking to add a second-row(s), it's more how far they'll go towards replacing what we've lost with Jake and Tex.
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Thank goodness we’ve got a very good board.  However we need to get quality second row replacements. Jake is a huge loss. Tex I’m disappointed is going - but he gave away a great number of penalties 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

While the WRU are holding on to our competition money and not using their huge asset base to finance the pro game, it would not at all be surprising that signings expectations have been on a rocky road.

Our Board have a responsibility to keep us trading, solvent etc even if there’s a stranglehold on our financial windpipe.

It’s no surprise the signings news is muted.

Totally understandable as you've pointed out EO. Staying afloat next season after the year we have had will be an achievement in itself. The WRU are not fit for purpose to run a professional game with annual revenues, in normal circumstances, approaching £100m. Regions/club whatever you wish to call them will never prosper while the current relationship persists.

The prospects are pretty dire frankly and have been made no better by the recent announcement that Steve Phillips has now been appointed as full time CEO. Blind leading the blind comes to mind. The 4 regions/clubs need to get their undoubted management skills together and provide a united front against the WRU. The reality which the WRU seem to ignore is that no regions/clubs = no professional rugby in Wales = no £100m income with which to pursue their Hotel and other non rugby projects. 
This is something seemingly lost on the press, or too inconvenient to highlight.

Can’t understand why.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wasp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 March 2021 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

While the WRU are holding on to our competition money and not using their huge asset base to finance the pro game, it would not at all be surprising that signings expectations have been on a rocky road.

Our Board have a responsibility to keep us trading, solvent etc even if there’s a stranglehold on our financial windpipe.

It’s no surprise the signings news is muted.
It seems like the £20m loan has been re-financed over a much longer term, so our cashflow next season will be around £1m better than it would otherwise have been
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

While the WRU are holding on to our competition money and not using their huge asset base to finance the pro game, it would not at all be surprising that signings expectations have been on a rocky road.

Our Board have a responsibility to keep us trading, solvent etc even if there’s a stranglehold on our financial windpipe.

It’s no surprise the signings news is muted.
It seems like the £20m loan has been re-financed over a much longer term, so our cashflow next season will be around £1m better than it would otherwise have been
That’s one step in the right direction.

Any progress in getting all our competition income paid to us?
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

While the WRU are holding on to our competition money and not using their huge asset base to finance the pro game, it would not at all be surprising that signings expectations have been on a rocky road.

Our Board have a responsibility to keep us trading, solvent etc even if there’s a stranglehold on our financial windpipe.

It’s no surprise the signings news is muted.
It seems like the £20m loan has been re-financed over a much longer term, so our cashflow next season will be around £1m better than it would otherwise have been
That’s one step in the right direction.

Any progress in getting all our competition income paid to us?
The money we have had is probably comp income. We've lost a big chunk of P14 money pending the Rainbow cup, which will only unlock some of the SA money. I believe the ERC cash has been reduced too. 

Unfortunately we signed up to the deal where the community game get the first £11m of ALL pro income. Although I believe that £11m has been reduced substantially as a lot of it goes on development officers who have been furloughed. Cash to community clubs is around £4-5m
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

While the WRU are holding on to our competition money and not using their huge asset base to finance the pro game, it would not at all be surprising that signings expectations have been on a rocky road.

Our Board have a responsibility to keep us trading, solvent etc even if there’s a stranglehold on our financial windpipe.

It’s no surprise the signings news is muted.

Totally understandable as you've pointed out EO. Staying afloat next season after the year we have had will be an achievement in itself. The WRU are not fit for purpose to run a professional game with annual revenues, in normal circumstances, approaching £100m. Regions/club whatever you wish to call them will never prosper while the current relationship persists.

The prospects are pretty dire frankly and have been made no better by the recent announcement that Steve Phillips has now been appointed as full time CEO. Blind leading the blind comes to mind. The 4 regions/clubs need to get their undoubted management skills together and provide a united front against the WRU. The reality which the WRU seem to ignore is that no regions/clubs = no professional rugby in Wales = no £100m income with which to pursue their Hotel and other non rugby projects. 
This is something seemingly lost on the press, or too inconvenient to highlight.

Can’t understand why.

This, for sure.
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there has to come a time where enough is enough ,the 4 regions must make a stand sooner rather than later,swansea and cardiff done it if we were strong and did it they would soon come running because without our players they don't have a product to cream off.
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