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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

there has to come a time where enough is enough ,the 4 regions must make a stand sooner rather than later,swansea and cardiff done it if we were strong and did it they would soon come running because without our players they don't have a product to cream off.

We're not strong enough, financially. Of our £12m income, about £5m is WRU cash. About £3-4m is from P14/Europe. The rest is tickets, sponsorship etc. 


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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

there has to come a time where enough is enough ,the 4 regions must make a stand sooner rather than later,swansea and cardiff done it if we were strong and did it they would soon come running because without our players they don't have a product to cream off.

I agree.I read Phillips' interview in WOL just now.,and it was not reassuring.Hotels and 'roof walks'....
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Ian Mr Ian wrote:

I had the impression that Aaron now has a different phisicality then two years ago, I thnik now he could be a good 5 in second row...

he looks a bit more bulked up Mr Isn and is Rawlins any heavier? 🤔


According to the Scarlets website, Shingler is 105 kg.  Rawlins is 5 kg heavier, Helps is 1 kg lighter.    Depending on who plays next to him, that's heavy enough to my mind.  Our front rows are good enough for the scrummaging side of it and our style of play really needs one mobile lock with good hands and an offloading game.  Lousi is one, Shingler would be another.

Playing Shingler at 6 tends to leave a lack of close-quarter carriers.  This makes defending against Kalamafoni easier than it should be, as he's the one go-to option.   When Cassiem played alongside Kalamafoni we looked a much better side.  I don't think that's a coincidence, because the key to rugby today seems to be dominating the contact area and a major part of that is having a number of top class carriers. Good coaching is also essential, but one step at a time.
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Originally posted by Nikostratos Nikostratos wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Ian Mr Ian wrote:

I had the impression that Aaron now has a different phisicality then two years ago, I thnik now he could be a good 5 in second row...

he looks a bit more bulked up Mr Isn and is Rawlins any heavier? 🤔


According to the Scarlets website, Shingler is 105 kg.  Rawlins is 5 kg heavier, Helps is 1 kg lighter.    Depending on who plays next to him, that's heavy enough to my mind.  Our front rows are good enough for the scrummaging side of it and our style of play really needs one mobile lock with good hands and an offloading game.  Lousi is one, Shingler would be another.

Playing Shingler at 6 tends to leave a lack of close-quarter carriers.  This makes defending against Kalamafoni easier than it should be, as he's the one go-to option.   When Cassiem played alongside Kalamafoni we looked a much better side.  I don't think that's a coincidence, because the key to rugby today seems to be dominating the contact area and a major part of that is having a number of top class carriers. Good coaching is also essential, but one step at a time.

Rawlins and Helps are light locks who dont have Shingler's athleticism. Rawlins is closer. Shingler should stay at 6. Your suggestion re Cassiem is not a bad one, but it then leaves us 1 fewer lineout jumpers. Its all just opinion of course.

Beirne was considered by Pivac to be a light lock for intl rugby too. Anyone know his size?
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Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

there has to come a time where enough is enough ,the 4 regions must make a stand sooner rather than later,swansea and cardiff done it if we were strong and did it they would soon come running because without our players they don't have a product to cream off.

I agree.I read Phillips' interview in WOL just now.,and it was not reassuring.Hotels and 'roof walks'....
Interestingly, though, he says this:

Q: Would your attitude be similar towards the next chunk of the PRO14 CVC money? Will that be used for long term projects or could that be used in the short term?

SP: We’re already doing that within the PRB discussions. Our regional teams are participating in that tournament so we made the choice that we would invest that capital back into our regional game, which is ongoing.

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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

there has to come a time where enough is enough ,the 4 regions must make a stand sooner rather than later,swansea and cardiff done it if we were strong and did it they would soon come running because without our players they don't have a product to cream off.
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Originally posted by Nikostratos Nikostratos wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

[QUOTE=Mr Ian]I had the impression that Aaron now has a different phisicality then two years ago, I thnik now he could be a good 5 in second row...

he looks a bit more bulked up Mr Isn and is Rawlins any heavier? 🤔


According to the Scarlets website, Shingler is 105 kg.  Rawlins is 5 kg heavier, Helps is 1 kg lighter.    Depending on who plays next to him, that's heavy enough to my mind.  Our front rows are good enough for the scrummaging side of it and our style of play really needs one mobile lock with good hands and an offloading game.  Lousi is one, Shingler would be another.

Playing Shingler at 6 tends to leave a lack of close-quarter carriers.  This makes defending against Kalamafoni easier than it should be, as he's the one go-to option.   When Cassiem played alongside Kalamafoni we looked a much better side.  I don't think that's a coincidence, because the key to rugby today seems to be dominating the contact area and a major part of that is having a number of top class carriers. Good coaching is also essential, but one step at a time.

Rawlins and Helps are light locks who dont have Shingler's athleticism. Rawlins is closer. Shingler should stay at 6. Your suggestion re Cassiem is not a bad one, but it then leaves us 1 fewer lineout jumpers. Its all just opinion of course.

Beirne was considered by Pivac to be a light lock for intl rugby too. Anyone know his size?
Ed Kennedy would be the best option to convert to lock ahead of Shingler, he's 6'5 and 17st5

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Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by Nikostratos Nikostratos wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

[QUOTE=Mr Ian]I had the impression that Aaron now has a different phisicality then two years ago, I thnik now he could be a good 5 in second row...

he looks a bit more bulked up Mr Isn and is Rawlins any heavier? 🤔


According to the Scarlets website, Shingler is 105 kg.  Rawlins is 5 kg heavier, Helps is 1 kg lighter.    Depending on who plays next to him, that's heavy enough to my mind.  Our front rows are good enough for the scrummaging side of it and our style of play really needs one mobile lock with good hands and an offloading game.  Lousi is one, Shingler would be another.

Playing Shingler at 6 tends to leave a lack of close-quarter carriers.  This makes defending against Kalamafoni easier than it should be, as he's the one go-to option.   When Cassiem played alongside Kalamafoni we looked a much better side.  I don't think that's a coincidence, because the key to rugby today seems to be dominating the contact area and a major part of that is having a number of top class carriers. Good coaching is also essential, but one step at a time.

Rawlins and Helps are light locks who dont have Shingler's athleticism. Rawlins is closer. Shingler should stay at 6. Your suggestion re Cassiem is not a bad one, but it then leaves us 1 fewer lineout jumpers. Its all just opinion of course.

Beirne was considered by Pivac to be a light lock for intl rugby too. Anyone know his size?
Ed Kennedy would be the best option to convert to lock ahead of Shingler, he's 6'5 and 17st5


I think he's a 6 too. Kind of Shingler's successor.
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Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by Nikostratos Nikostratos wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

[QUOTE=Mr Ian]I had the impression that Aaron now has a different phisicality then two years ago, I thnik now he could be a good 5 in second row...

he looks a bit more bulked up Mr Isn and is Rawlins any heavier? 🤔


According to the Scarlets website, Shingler is 105 kg.  Rawlins is 5 kg heavier, Helps is 1 kg lighter.    Depending on who plays next to him, that's heavy enough to my mind.  Our front rows are good enough for the scrummaging side of it and our style of play really needs one mobile lock with good hands and an offloading game.  Lousi is one, Shingler would be another.

Playing Shingler at 6 tends to leave a lack of close-quarter carriers.  This makes defending against Kalamafoni easier than it should be, as he's the one go-to option.   When Cassiem played alongside Kalamafoni we looked a much better side.  I don't think that's a coincidence, because the key to rugby today seems to be dominating the contact area and a major part of that is having a number of top class carriers. Good coaching is also essential, but one step at a time.

Rawlins and Helps are light locks who dont have Shingler's athleticism. Rawlins is closer. Shingler should stay at 6. Your suggestion re Cassiem is not a bad one, but it then leaves us 1 fewer lineout jumpers. Its all just opinion of course.

Beirne was considered by Pivac to be a light lock for intl rugby too. Anyone know his size?
Ed Kennedy would be the best option to convert to lock ahead of Shingler, he's 6'5 and 17st5


To me, Ed is the best option for a Shingler successor. Similar build, good in the loose, can use in line outs. I like him, wish we saw him a bit more.
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Taylor Davies has joined Dragons on a short term loan deal 
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Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Taylor Davies has joined Dragons on a short term loan deal 

Apologies just noticed this has already been mentioned in General Rugby
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A re-signing announcement will be made today. 
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Ryan Elias has extended his contract.
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Ryan Elias has extended his contract.
Brilliant news! Hardworking player especially in the loose. Hard done by in the sense he is third for Wales and get called up but doesn’t get time for them or us. Hopefully we can see more chances for Ryan this season.
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Yeah good signing. Must be frustrating to be current third choice for Wales, personally i’d rather he be back at the scarlets or actually used by Wales.
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