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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Dai38 Dai38 wrote:

I don't know may professional coaches but the 2 I know have both said he is a good coach but not a very nice person, as Fscarlet says his method of management is always aggressive. 
Sean Holley in a rugby night in the Llanelli CC, also said a story about him, Cockers is the only rugby person he really dislikes in the game, and they were fighting in the tunnel at half time during one European Rugby match, when he was with Leicester.
I just can't see him coming to PYS & working with Dwayne Peel

He's destined for bigger things than PYS.
Is he? Confused
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Dai38 Dai38 wrote:

I don't know may professional coaches but the 2 I know have both said he is a good coach but not a very nice person, as Fscarlet says his method of management is always aggressive. 
Sean Holley in a rugby night in the Llanelli CC, also said a story about him, Cockers is the only rugby person he really dislikes in the game, and they were fighting in the tunnel at half time during one European Rugby match, when he was with Leicester.
I just can't see him coming to PYS & working with Dwayne Peel

He's destined for bigger things than PYS.
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Well I don't think you can argue with his CV. I don't see him becoming anything less than the head coach at a pro 16 club - maybe he would accept forwards coach in France/England. He has built a decent squad at Edinburgh only to see many leave so its clearly frustrating. Unless of course you can enlighten us Steff?
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Apparently theres an article on the times (behind a paywall so I can't see it - a mate mentioned it to me) that's written by a player who spent a couple of years under Cockers at Edinburgh who said his style of management never changed. He came to Edinburgh & got tough with them very quickly however the play said despite things improving, every team meeting was basically a rollocking. 

That comes as no surprise - Cockers does come across as someone who gets out of bed on the wrong side EVERY day, or who could start a fight in a phone-box (What are they? youngsters - find out from Dr Google!)
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Richard Whiffin has left the region.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Richard Whiffin has left the region.

My general reading of this forum would suggest many are happy about that. (Not in a personal way, rather just he wasn’t quite the right guy for the job)
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Yes, it's for the best. Peel and Flannagan will run attack. We need a defence coach though 
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Coaches merry-go-round is turning...

Hugh Hogan - new defence coach, coming from Leinster where he's been contact skills coach since 2018, previously head coach of their U18s/U19s/A teams.

Former Leinster A player (back row 2005-2009) - suspect Peel got to know of him while in IRFU system, will have a good pedigree & steeped in Leinster culture. Bringing his young family over, so clearly committed to opportunity. Croeso, Hugh.


EDIT: Unusually glowing send-off from Leinster, too:

And if his nickname isn't Hulk'... Dead


Edited by NobbySosban - 22 July 2021 at 3:44pm
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Lets be honest, any coach from Leinster must be held in good esteem though I do note he is a skills coach at Leinster.

Educated at The High School and Trinity College Dublin Hugh was appointed Elite Player Development Officer in January 2013 having previously coached schools and club rugby for over a decade. He is a Stage 5 coach with excellent technical knowledge and appreciation of the game.

A former back row forward, Hugh represented Leinster ‘A’ between 2005 and 2009 and also played for the Ireland Club Team over a five year period. In the club game, Hugh captained Dublin University Football Club before playing with St Mary’s College RFC, where he captained them to Leinster Senior Cup (2010) and All Ireland League (2012) titles.

While at Leinster, Hugh has been Head Coach of Leinster U19s, Leinster U20s and Leinster ‘A’ as well as coaching with the Ireland 7s programme at both U19 and Senior level.

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good luck to Whiffin, I m not happy when someone left without leave a good memory in our...I think he is a good coach, better in development young players but with us he failed. I ve had the impression that he and Scarlets have a two opposite rugby philosophy...WIth Peel there isnt this problem and we ll see soon improvements, many players need a soon revenge...
Welcome on board to Hogan, honestly I didnt konw him, but his role as contact coach in Leinster like me so much...
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Lets be honest, any coach from Leinster must be held in good esteem though I do note he is a skills coach at Leinster.

Educated at The High School and Trinity College Dublin Hugh was appointed Elite Player Development Officer in January 2013 having previously coached schools and club rugby for over a decade. He is a Stage 5 coach with excellent technical knowledge and appreciation of the game.

A former back row forward, Hugh represented Leinster ‘A’ between 2005 and 2009 and also played for the Ireland Club Team over a five year period. In the club game, Hugh captained Dublin University Football Club before playing with St Mary’s College RFC, where he captained them to Leinster Senior Cup (2010) and All Ireland League (2012) titles.

While at Leinster, Hugh has been Head Coach of Leinster U19s, Leinster U20s and Leinster ‘A’ as well as coaching with the Ireland 7s programme at both U19 and Senior level.



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Originally posted by BBledd BBledd wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Lets be honest, any coach from Leinster must be held in good esteem though I do note he is a skills coach at Leinster.

Educated at The High School and Trinity College Dublin Hugh was appointed Elite Player Development Officer in January 2013 having previously coached schools and club rugby for over a decade. He is a Stage 5 coach with excellent technical knowledge and appreciation of the game.

A former back row forward, Hugh represented Leinster ‘A’ between 2005 and 2009 and also played for the Ireland Club Team over a five year period. In the club game, Hugh captained Dublin University Football Club before playing with St Mary’s College RFC, where he captained them to Leinster Senior Cup (2010) and All Ireland League (2012) titles.

While at Leinster, Hugh has been Head Coach of Leinster U19s, Leinster U20s and Leinster ‘A’ as well as coaching with the Ireland 7s programme at both U19 and Senior level.



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Apologies, so he is more a forwards coach? 
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Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:

Coaches merry-go-round is turning...

Hugh Hogan - new defence coach, coming from Leinster where he's been contact skills coach since 2018, previously head coach of their U18s/U19s/A teams.

Former Leinster A player (back row 2005-2009) - suspect Peel got to know of him while in IRFU system, will have a good pedigree & steeped in Leinster culture. Bringing his young family over, so clearly committed to opportunity. Croeso, Hugh.


EDIT: Unusually glowing send-off from Leinster, too:

And if his nickname isn't Hulk'... Dead

...He's going to be 'Hulk' Hogan on here very shortly, isn't he?

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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by BBledd BBledd wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Lets be honest, any coach from Leinster must be held in good esteem though I do note he is a skills coach at Leinster.

Educated at The High School and Trinity College Dublin Hugh was appointed Elite Player Development Officer in January 2013 having previously coached schools and club rugby for over a decade. He is a Stage 5 coach with excellent technical knowledge and appreciation of the game.

A former back row forward, Hugh represented Leinster ‘A’ between 2005 and 2009 and also played for the Ireland Club Team over a five year period. In the club game, Hugh captained Dublin University Football Club before playing with St Mary’s College RFC, where he captained them to Leinster Senior Cup (2010) and All Ireland League (2012) titles.

While at Leinster, Hugh has been Head Coach of Leinster U19s, Leinster U20s and Leinster ‘A’ as well as coaching with the Ireland 7s programme at both U19 and Senior level.



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Apologies, so he is more a forwards coach? 
He was a skills coach at Leinster concentrating on tackle technique and ways to avoid concussion. Stuart Lancaster is in overall charge of Leinster’s defence. It’ll be a big challenge for Hogan in charge of an overall defensive system but he’s highly rated.

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Originally posted by Dai38 Dai38 wrote:

I don't know may professional coaches but the 2 I know have both said he is a good coach but not a very nice person, as Fscarlet says his method of management is always aggressive. 
Sean Holley in a rugby night in the Llanelli CC, also said a story about him, Cockers is the only rugby person he really dislikes in the game, and they were fighting in the tunnel at half time during one European Rugby match, when he was with Leicester.
I just can't see him coming to PYS & working with Dwayne Peel


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This sounds like a very good appointment. He’s coming from a great high-performance setup and it seems like he was highly rated in his role over there. We’d become a real soft touch last season so I’m glad to see that the club are serious about remedying that. 
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