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    Posted: 14 January 2022 at 10:41am
I wonder how Bordeaux are getting on in terms of their positive COVID tests.
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There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
Yeah religion and science never mix 
he’s daft if he is willing to put his daughter at risk. No god would want you to endanger an innocent child  no matter what religion you beleve in and i say that as a church going catholic
She can’t have the vaccine because of her condition and the medicines she already on. It’s a horrendous situation to be in along with pressure from family and others within his community. 
no but he can and he should , if his mosque is peddling such nonsense he should simply attend another one, these clerics are not experts on this disease

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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

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There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
Yeah religion and science never mix 
he’s daft if he is willing to put his daughter at risk. No god would want you to endanger an innocent child  no matter what religion you beleve in and i say that as a church going catholic
She can’t have the vaccine because of her condition and the medicines she already on. It’s a horrendous situation to be in along with pressure from family and others within his community. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
Yeah religion and science never mix 
he’s daft if he is willing to put his daughter at risk. No god would want you to endanger an innocent child  no matter what religion you beleve in and i say that as a church going catholic

Too right RR. Absolute b....y nonsense to put your own child, or for that matter anyone else's, in any danger. I sometimes wonder if the World has gone bonkers. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

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France opens its border to UK holiday makers from tomorrow, no quarantine but must show negative test taken within 24 hours of departure.

Game on!

Its my understanding that Unvaccinated travelers still have to self isolate. Is that correct?

If so that would mean that any individuals in the Scarlets party who are not fully vaccinated will be unable to travel.

Those who are un-vaccinated must provide an essential reason as to why they are entering France.

ETA: Unsure if that means they have to self isolate.

The link to the BBC article is below. The concerning statement is that, Unvaccinated travelers need a compelling reason to travel and must still isolate for 10 days on arrival. Surely that would exclude any non triple jabbed Scarlets players and support team members from traveling to France?


Any of our intended travelling party who are not fully vaccinated and do not pass a test within 24 hours of travel will not be going to Bordeaux. That is pretty reasonable now that the silly 48 hour quarantine has been dropped. 
If that's the case anyone unable to travel shouldn't be paid for the time they are unavailable.  It's their right to be unvaccinated but I don't see why employers and colleagues should suffer as a result.
Absolute nonsense they didn’t know the rules which change every day seemingly and can’t have three vaccines in 24 hours. We live in a free country people should have choice what to put in their bodies without fear of being punished if they don’t. 
I am fully vaccinated and believe in them but will fight for the rights of others to choose. 

 
people have the right not to be vaccinated and nations have the right not to let unvaccinated people into their country
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Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
Yeah religion and science never mix 
he’s daft if he is willing to put his daughter at risk. No god would want you to endanger an innocent child  no matter what religion you beleve in and i say that as a church going catholic
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We do GPR, we really do. The more I have seen online & heard through interviews, the more I am convinced that Dwayne is really getting the boys into his way of playing including the methods of training.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

I'm actually excited for Sunday, I don't know why but I am excited.

Scarlets, more than most, need games. Its unbelievable that we are 3 weeks away from the 6 nations & we have only played 6 games!!! I am also excited just to watch our team - I have zero expectations just great to see the boys on the field doing what they love. Dwayne has got it spot on by saying that we won't stand a chance if we don't show ambition and take our game to them. 
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I'm actually excited for Sunday, I don't know why but I am excited.
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Why, perhaps you might point your neighbour towards this site:
https://mcb.org.uk/resources/coronavirus/  [Muslim Council of Britain] which is fully supportive of vaccination and has vearious myth-busting resources keyed to Islamic beliefs. 
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
I would have thought the bame community would be rushing to be vaccinated being as they are more at risk,and it's not judging to say that if the majority of people had a sick child they would do everything in their power to protect that child,religion has a lot to answer for.
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I hope we don't loose key players from our playing squad because they've refused to be vaccinated.
( That is covid vaccinated, I presume they are up to date with their  Polio, Diptheria, Mumps, Rubella, Whooping Cough and Measles vaccinations.)
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
Yeah religion and science never mix 
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There is a huge problem in the ethnic community with their religious leaders peddling anti vaccine material. My neighbour is a Muslim and unvaccinated because of the teaching in his mosque and is very confused about what to do. He also has a severely disabled daughter who can’t be vaccinated yet has to go to hospital regularly. Should he be castigated possibly but please look at the situation from others perspective before judging. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

France opens its border to UK holiday makers from tomorrow, no quarantine but must show negative test taken within 24 hours of departure.

Game on!

Its my understanding that Unvaccinated travelers still have to self isolate. Is that correct?

If so that would mean that any individuals in the Scarlets party who are not fully vaccinated will be unable to travel.

Those who are un-vaccinated must provide an essential reason as to why they are entering France.

ETA: Unsure if that means they have to self isolate.

The link to the BBC article is below. The concerning statement is that, Unvaccinated travelers need a compelling reason to travel and must still isolate for 10 days on arrival. Surely that would exclude any non triple jabbed Scarlets players and support team members from traveling to France?


Any of our intended travelling party who are not fully vaccinated and do not pass a test within 24 hours of travel will not be going to Bordeaux. That is pretty reasonable now that the silly 48 hour quarantine has been dropped. 
If that's the case anyone unable to travel shouldn't be paid for the time they are unavailable.  It's their right to be unvaccinated but I don't see why employers and colleagues should suffer as a result.
Absolute nonsense they didn’t know the rules which change every day seemingly and can’t have three vaccines in 24 hours. We live in a free country people should have choice what to put in their bodies without fear of being punished if they don’t. 
I am fully vaccinated and believe in them but will fight for the rights of others to choose. 


My view is, we are currently in this sh1te mainly due to hospitals being full of unvaccinated people who are ill with covid. Why arent people angry with those people? I dont get it. I find it hugely frustrating to the point where I honestly feel, if you choose not to be vaccinated and get ill, you should pay for your treatment. Yes its 100% your choice, but there are consequences.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2022 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

France opens its border to UK holiday makers from tomorrow, no quarantine but must show negative test taken within 24 hours of departure.

Game on!

Its my understanding that Unvaccinated travelers still have to self isolate. Is that correct?

If so that would mean that any individuals in the Scarlets party who are not fully vaccinated will be unable to travel.

Those who are un-vaccinated must provide an essential reason as to why they are entering France.

ETA: Unsure if that means they have to self isolate.

The link to the BBC article is below. The concerning statement is that, Unvaccinated travelers need a compelling reason to travel and must still isolate for 10 days on arrival. Surely that would exclude any non triple jabbed Scarlets players and support team members from traveling to France?


Any of our intended travelling party who are not fully vaccinated and do not pass a test within 24 hours of travel will not be going to Bordeaux. That is pretty reasonable now that the silly 48 hour quarantine has been dropped. 
If that's the case anyone unable to travel shouldn't be paid for the time they are unavailable.  It's their right to be unvaccinated but I don't see why employers and colleagues should suffer as a result.
Absolute nonsense they didn’t know the rules which change every day seemingly and can’t have three vaccines in 24 hours. We live in a free country people should have choice what to put in their bodies without fear of being punished if they don’t. 
I am fully vaccinated and believe in them but will fight for the rights of others to choose. 


My view is, we are currently in this sh1te mainly due to hospitals being full of unvaccinated people who are ill with covid. Why arent people angry with those people? I dont get it. I find it hugely frustrating to the point where I honestly feel, if you choose not to be vaccinated and get ill, you should pay for your treatment. Yes its 100% your choice, but there are consequences.
I share your frustration at the non-vaccinated. 

My reaction depends on whether I know the person or if it’s just an en-masse anti-vaxxer like Piers Corbyn.

One our best friends in France refused to be jabbed so he never went near a restaurant etc after 1st August. He died last week. He’d been ill for a while and didn’t really want to take his medicine. In turns, very frustrating, sad but ultimately his choice and we respected that.

Those that deny the virus’s existence and come up with all sorts of illogical reasons to avoid vaccination, I just don’t understand.

While freedom of choice should exist to a certain extent, if the use of that choice leads to persistently or extreme examples of bad choice, there should be sanctions.

While we might think supporting the Ospreys is not very logical, it is a choice that has little consequential impact. So a “go ahead if you really must” kind of choice and yes I know they’d say the same about us.

Someone who objects to the govt and goes about blowing up people and places or carries put random assaults and killings needs their choice punished heavily. 

Someone choosing not to vaccinate falls somewhere in between. Exercising that choice would have vastly differing consequences for them depending on their location. Wil and others could add some specifics to this. 

If the government insisted on a vaccine confirmation document for all restaurants, bars etc, the hospitality sector could carry on without fear of having to shut down. It would act as an incentive to weaken the resolve of the anti-vaxxers. 

Macron wants to turn the screw on the unvaccinated in France and has said so. Some other friends of ours over there have only recently got jabbed. Claiming it was anti Buddhist, which it may well be, to get vaccinated, they got fed up with not seeing their vaccinated friends nor going into a restaurant.

Calling into our local garage on the way home this pm, the owner’s son and wife recently got back from the Caribbean and have come down with Covid. They’re both vaccinated and are struggling with the symptoms. It’d have been even worse if they’d not been jabbed.

If the cabinet weren’t formed from such a narrow range of views and backgrounds, there’d probably be a harder line taken on the vaccine, or maybe not…………..
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