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    Posted: 10 May 2022 at 7:48am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Hopefully Blade will be able to play ? All the other injured in the main 23 are going to be still absent aren’t they? I hope Liam will be available as we need all hands on deck. 🙏
Sorry Dai, I’ll be happier not to see Liam in Scarlet again. Dwayne’s answer and face when asked about Liam after the Ospreys game said it all for me.

Yes Wasp it is pretty clear there is no love lost between Liam & Dwayne for whatever reason, which until they write their memoirs we will never understand. If I was Dwayne I would be selecting my team for the final game with the intent on sending a message to his young tyros that he believed in them and that whilst they are not the finished articles yet he has faith in them to deliver in the future.

Dwayne will know his squad now and he will have assessed the ceilings of his players. My team, based on this philosophy would be :-

15. Rogers 14. Baldwin 13. Roberts 12. Johnny Wills 11. Conbeer 10. Patchell 9. Cawdor
1. Steff 2. Ryan (C)3. Javan 4. Sam 5. Jac 6. Blade 7. Josh 8. Sione

16. Daf/Shaun 17. Wyn/Kemsley 18. Harri O'Connor 19. Morgan Jones 20. Carwyn/Aaron 21. Blacker 22. Sam 23. Foxy.

Qualifying for the Champions Cup is for me not the priority. I understand there will be groans about certain selections - no Liam, Rhys starting, no Lezana etc but i honestly believe that, whilst Sam Costelow is a fantastic prospect he is still short of the controller needed to guide this team which is very short on confidence. Rhys' tactical kicking game & length of kicking edge it for me. 

As for Liam enough has been said. Lezana always motors around the field but he misses important tackles and is not a turnover man hence my selections. 

Finally for many of our squad this will be their final game as Scarlets players - always a sad time for supporters so I would encourage anyone who can to attend & give our thanks & best wishes to those leaving. 
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Hopefully Blade will be able to play ? All the other injured in the main 23 are going to be still absent aren’t they? I hope Liam will be available as we need all hands on deck. 🙏
Sorry Dai, I’ll be happier not to see Liam in Scarlet again. Dwayne’s answer and face when asked about Liam after the Ospreys game said it all for me.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  When the Scarlets received an apology from the URC officials , stating that 21 points should not have stood.... Little wonder there was a collapse .

   What good is an apology though, same after the Andy Brace show in Edinburgh,another apology ....Eight match points lost ...Simply cost up top eight, no excuse whatsoever for these errors by officials ... Including TMO ,four pairs of eyes, numerous replays and camera angles .
100% agree Mark. Ive said it so many times, people underestimate the impact decisions have on a game and how heads drop after a run of dubious ones. Yes a good side should still overcome that but we dont have the mental strength at the moment. 
all sides have bad decisions go against them, we are too mentally fragile it is a mindset that needs toughen up if we are to kick on

Spot on. I don’t think the whole world is out against us. There’s plenty of incidents week in week out where decisions have gone against teams. 
That wasnt the point made, yes every team has decisions go against them, we dont handle them as well as we should. That said, how many teams have an official apology on file? Thats pretty damning 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  When the Scarlets received an apology from the URC officials , stating that 21 points should not have stood.... Little wonder there was a collapse .

   What good is an apology though, same after the Andy Brace show in Edinburgh,another apology ....Eight match points lost ...Simply cost up top eight, no excuse whatsoever for these errors by officials ... Including TMO ,four pairs of eyes, numerous replays and camera angles .
100% agree Mark. Ive said it so many times, people underestimate the impact decisions have on a game and how heads drop after a run of dubious ones. Yes a good side should still overcome that but we dont have the mental strength at the moment. 
all sides have bad decisions go against them, we are too mentally fragile it is a mindset that needs toughen up if we are to kick on
Hold on, there was no mental collapse, no mental fragility in our loss to the Dragons.  As pointed out above, the ref simply gave 21 points to the Dragons that should not have been given.  If anything, its the ref that was fragile, not us. Had those 21 points not been given then we would have won.  I won't even mention the yellow cards that were not given against the Dragons.

So no, I disagree that our heads dropped in that game. We scored a few good tries but it's very difficult for any team to win when the other side have a 21 points head start,
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  When the Scarlets received an apology from the URC officials , stating that 21 points should not have stood.... Little wonder there was a collapse .

   What good is an apology though, same after the Andy Brace show in Edinburgh,another apology ....Eight match points lost ...Simply cost up top eight, no excuse whatsoever for these errors by officials ... Including TMO ,four pairs of eyes, numerous replays and camera angles .
100% agree Mark. Ive said it so many times, people underestimate the impact decisions have on a game and how heads drop after a run of dubious ones. Yes a good side should still overcome that but we dont have the mental strength at the moment. 
all sides have bad decisions go against them, we are too mentally fragile it is a mindset that needs toughen up if we are to kick on

Spot on. I don’t think the whole world is out against us. There’s plenty of incidents week in week out where decisions have gone against teams. 
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  When the Scarlets received an apology from the URC officials , stating that 21 points should not have stood.... Little wonder there was a collapse .

   What good is an apology though, same after the Andy Brace show in Edinburgh,another apology ....Eight match points lost ...Simply cost up top eight, no excuse whatsoever for these errors by officials ... Including TMO ,four pairs of eyes, numerous replays and camera angles .
100% agree Mark. Ive said it so many times, people underestimate the impact decisions have on a game and how heads drop after a run of dubious ones. Yes a good side should still overcome that but we dont have the mental strength at the moment. 
all sides have bad decisions go against them, we are too mentally fragile it is a mindset that needs toughen up if we are to kick on
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Hopefully the fact we still have another week off will help to bring some players back into the fold.
Although historically, we dont do well after a week off. 
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Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  When the Scarlets received an apology from the URC officials , stating that 21 points should not have stood.... Little wonder there was a collapse .

   What good is an apology though, same after the Andy Brace show in Edinburgh,another apology ....Eight match points lost ...Simply cost up top eight, no excuse whatsoever for these errors by officials ... Including TMO ,four pairs of eyes, numerous replays and camera angles .
100% agree Mark. Ive said it so many times, people underestimate the impact decisions have on a game and how heads drop after a run of dubious ones. Yes a good side should still overcome that but we dont have the mental strength at the moment. 
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Hopefully the fact we still have another week off will help to bring some players back into the fold.

I hope they don't  have another "week off" though I suspect you mean another week of training and preparation.   However this extra week provides more potential for training injuries so we may end up in the same boat.Dead

Yeah I meant in terms of actually not playing. Looks like little or no training happened last week as a few of the boys (& their other halves) were enjoying the sites of Dubai. 
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Hopefully the fact we still have another week off will help to bring some players back into the fold.

I hope they don't  have another "week off" though I suspect you mean another week of training and preparation.   However this extra week provides more potential for training injuries so we may end up in the same boat.Dead
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Hopefully the fact we still have another week off will help to bring some players back into the fold.
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Hopefully Blade will be able to play ? All the other injured in the main 23 are going to be still absent aren’t they? I hope Liam will be available as we need all hands on deck. 🙏
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  When the Scarlets received an apology from the URC officials , stating that 21 points should not have stood.... Little wonder there was a collapse .

   What good is an apology though, same after the Andy Brace show in Edinburgh,another apology ....Eight match points lost ...Simply cost up top eight, no excuse whatsoever for these errors by officials ... Including TMO ,four pairs of eyes, numerous replays and camera angles .
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Who gives a toss what the wide boy Booth thinks his side weren’t sent to SA in the midst of a Covid outbreak and locked away for 14 days in Ireland.

Tbh that doesn’t excuse the embarrassing loss at home to the dragons. An awful collapse 
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The ospreys are certainly in the driving seat now.  We are really going to rue the home defeats to Connacht and the dragons.  We were in command in both those games at around the 50/60 minute marks but failed to finish them off.  
If I was going to be critical of the coaching team, in both those games they changed both halfbacks at the same time.  I believe that you should only change both halfbacks when your either losing the match (and have nothing to lose) or when your at least 2 scores clear and can afford to lose some of your control and some of your lead.
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Who gives a toss what the wide boy Booth thinks his side weren’t sent to SA in the midst of a Covid outbreak and locked away for 14 days in Ireland.

She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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