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    Posted: 30 September 2022 at 11:08am
I get it from an educational point of view and it gives youngsters more options, it just means that we'll need to work a bit harder to keep/tempt new talent as the route to where they go and end up is increasingly up for grabs.
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In recent years the Scarlets have used Llandovery to tempt good young talent. Brecon provides a similar service. The problem we have of course when comparing with the English systems is that places like Hartbury offer educational opportunities from 16-21 whereas it ends at A level at Brecon & Llandovery I think. 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Cofi Cofi wrote:

Not directly to do with the WRU deal but,
disappointed to see that Llandovery Coll have signed a new deal with Cardiff (Blues) enabling a clear player pathway. Does this negate the partnership they had with us?  With numerous scholarships the school is no longer only for the rich, it enabled many north/mid wales players their 1st access to top level coaching and strength and conditioning programmes. I hope they continue to support a player pathway to the Scarlets- Daf Hughes is testament to that success.
That is disappointing news.
They’ve had deals with all the four Welsh pro sides for the past decade. They’ve never been solely dedicated to the Scarlets development wise 

It would be surprising if this wasn't the case.First and foremost,private education is about making money,in spite of tbe charitable status of the schools.Money talks.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Cofi Cofi wrote:

Not directly to do with the WRU deal but,
disappointed to see that Llandovery Coll have signed a new deal with Cardiff (Blues) enabling a clear player pathway. Does this negate the partnership they had with us?  With numerous scholarships the school is no longer only for the rich, it enabled many north/mid wales players their 1st access to top level coaching and strength and conditioning programmes. I hope they continue to support a player pathway to the Scarlets- Daf Hughes is testament to that success.
That is disappointing news.
They’ve had deals with all the four Welsh pro sides for the past decade. They’ve never been solely dedicated to the Scarlets development wise 
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Foxy is now a pundit on the Good the Bad & the Rugby podcast & he was talking about there needs to be better links between the Premiership sides & the regions. He spoke about how regional players need to see it more as pride for representing local club sides than being relegated to their squads. 
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They've got partnerships with the Ospreys and Dragons already so not a surprise, albeit yes very disappointing.

This all feels a bit messy now, the school/college/club game was reasonably well aligned and now you'll have players from other regions blocking the places of people in the region.

If you want areas to buy into their nearest pro team you ideally want a collective backing in the community and this sort of thing doesn't really drive that.
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Originally posted by Cofi Cofi wrote:

Not directly to do with the WRU deal but,
disappointed to see that Llandovery Coll have signed a new deal with Cardiff (Blues) enabling a clear player pathway. Does this negate the partnership they had with us?  With numerous scholarships the school is no longer only for the rich, it enabled many north/mid wales players their 1st access to top level coaching and strength and conditioning programmes. I hope they continue to support a player pathway to the Scarlets- Daf Hughes is testament to that success.
That is disappointing news.
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Not directly to do with the WRU deal but,
disappointed to see that Llandovery Coll have signed a new deal with Cardiff (Blues) enabling a clear player pathway. Does this negate the partnership they had with us?  With numerous scholarships the school is no longer only for the rich, it enabled many north/mid wales players their 1st access to top level coaching and strength and conditioning programmes. I hope they continue to support a player pathway to the Scarlets- Daf Hughes is testament to that success.
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Not sure but 100% certain it wasn't stevie wonderLOL
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We may as well sign up to the RFU as second class options , I think we could do well playing in Div 3 

I'd rather do that than continue in this sh*t show called the URC...

Thats just a stupid throw away comment ...I thought you were better than that 
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Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

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We may as well sign up to the RFU as second class options , I think we could do well playing in Div 3 

I'd rather do that than continue in this sh*t show called the URC...

Thats just a stupid throw away comment ...I thought you were better than that 
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players are up for strike action according to WOL


No surprise there.....some of the boys been on a go-slow for two years
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players are up for strike action according to WOL
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Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

We may as well sign up to the RFU as second class options , I think we could do well playing in Div 3 

I'd rather do that than continue in this sh*t show called the URC...
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We may as well sign up to the RFU as second class options , I think we could do well playing in Div 3 
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A British & Irish league would be the ideal with clubs taking centre stage in negotiating contracts and release of players under contract.


I don't agree with this anymore. I don't want to be in any competition with Union owned clubs. All they do is lookout for the test game above the domestic game. You can see that at the moment with the IRFU taking 30 players out of the URC and over to South Africa for a tour whilst URC games are taking place. That is bringing the game into disrepute and would never happen in England or France.

We need an Anglo Welsh league.


That was the point I was making, albeit not well, in saying that clubs should take centre stage. No more Union sponsored/owner clubs. 
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