Wales v Italy

greypower1 wrote: Coch wrote: Wyn was top class in the World Cup and on Lions tour but he was much fitter and leaner then. He's bulked up too much in my opinion, mind you he's very  strong have you seen the WRU clip of him lifting 250kg? I think Gats will get his weight down and be more mobile before World Cup.  You are quite right, Gats does need to get his weight down before the world cup, Wyn could do with a few pounds less as well.

Coch wrote: Wyn was top class in the World Cup and on Lions tour but he was much fitter and leaner then. He's bulked up too much in my opinion, mind you he's very  strong have you seen the WRU clip of him lifting 250kg? I think Gats will get his weight down and be more mobile before World Cup.

Wales across the board lacks tight five forwards that have an all round skill set. Poor carriers. Any other country would have turned Carré and Brown into monsters.

Wil Chips wrote: Eastern outpost wrote: Grammar School Boy wrote: Wil Chips wrote: As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019. Has not been the same level of player since the SA Lions tour. Any idea of the reason? Maybe I'm being harsh on Wyn on reflection, I see the other 6N LH props like Genge, Porter, Fischetti, Schoeman, Baille offering so much around the park, as well as being solid in the scrums. Wales just don't have that sort of guy. Wyn is a good scrummager, but he got tumbled in the tight (missed 5 tackles) and isn't a threat at the breakdown.

Eastern outpost wrote: Grammar School Boy wrote: Wil Chips wrote: As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019. Has not been the same level of player since the SA Lions tour. Any idea of the reason?

Maybe I'm being harsh on Wyn on reflection, I see the other 6N LH props like Genge, Porter, Fischetti, Schoeman, Baille offering so much around the park, as well as being solid in the scrums.

Wales just don't have that sort of guy. Wyn is a good scrummager, but he got tumbled in the tight (missed 5 tackles) and isn't a threat at the breakdown.

Grammar School Boy wrote: Wil Chips wrote: As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019. Has not been the same level of player since the SA Lions tour.

Any idea of the reason?

As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019.

aber-fan wrote: EJPT wrote: Lincscarlet wrote: I think Crowley nailed it in his post match interview- “how does a team give away 17 pens, 5 on the line, and not even get a warning”…..against France, ireland, the AB’s etc the ref gives that penalty try and welsh players get cards. I’ll always take a win, but it didn’t feel like we won more like Italy lost. Give away 17 pens against Ntamack and co and it’ll be another cricket score.  He can’t winge too much the refs saved them from being permanently down to fourteen men. I suppose you are referring to the forearm direct to Wyn Jones's throat? I also thought that was a red - as did the TMO, fairly obviously - but she was overruled by the weak ref.