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It's mainly taken by PPE ..I shall post the breakdown , when I find the link again to the article Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

what on earth is happening with Sturgeons husband now? Is this why she quit ?

Yes Roy very interesting development. It revolves around a figure of £660,000 raised in support by the SNP for another campaign for a referendum. It was meant to be ring fenced but recent accounts show it appears to have disappeared. 

Scottish Police have been investigating for 18 months so it does seem plausible that Sturgeon may have quit before this broke saving herself from serious embarrassment. 

As terrible it is , can some one tell me where the missing 60 billion has gone from the westminster government ...both instances should be investigated fully , and whilst that is happening ,we should be investigating the expenses of all politicians 

Don't recognise the 60 billion figure but totally agree with the expenses suggestions. There are far too many MP's walking round Westminster who should in reality be walking around Ford open Prison or other such establishment. 
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

what on earth is happening with Sturgeons husband now? Is this why she quit ?

Yes Roy very interesting development. It revolves around a figure of £660,000 raised in support by the SNP for another campaign for a referendum. It was meant to be ring fenced but recent accounts show it appears to have disappeared. 

Scottish Police have been investigating for 18 months so it does seem plausible that Sturgeon may have quit before this broke saving herself from serious embarrassment. 

As terrible it is , can some one tell me where the missing 60 billion has gone from the westminster government ...both instances should be investigated fully , and whilst that is happening ,we should be investigating the expenses of all politicians 
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

what on earth is happening with Sturgeons husband now? Is this why she quit ?

Yes Roy very interesting development. It revolves around a figure of £660,000 raised in support by the SNP for another campaign for a referendum. It was meant to be ring fenced but recent accounts show it appears to have disappeared. 

Scottish Police have been investigating for 18 months so it does seem plausible that Sturgeon may have quit before this broke saving herself from serious embarrassment. 
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what on earth is happening with Sturgeons husband now? Is this why she quit ?
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What also needs to be remembered is that the current Welsh government and it's ministers are removable , that means if you don't like them you can vote them out , so the arguement of I don't like drakeford doesn't make any sense ...
On a side note regarding PR and whether it works or not , all I can suggest is that Gar and myself have agreed with each others point twice in 1 week ...now if that isn't an example of PR working then I don't know what is LOL

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What also needs to be remembered is that the current Welsh government and it's ministers are removable , that means if you don't like them you can vote them out , so the arguement of I don't like drakeford doesn't make any sense ...
On a side note regarding PR and whether it works or not , all I can suggest is that Gar and myself have agreed with each others point twice in 1 week ...now if that isn't an example of PR working then I don't know what is LOL
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I can only agree with Oracle ( did i really say that??????) about some of the funding decisions taken by Westminster to the detriment of the Welsh Government & therefore to the Welsh population. The HS2 decision was sheer madness.

As for the case for Independence I too was very sceptical about our ability to self govern but I have to admit that 13 years of this Tory government along with some very educational contributions from TBS & Oracle ( there I go again - time for some fresh air)I have certainly moved a lot closer to the supporting Independence. I will give the Labour party a chance to really start levelling up Britain first & then we will see. 
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Or incrased LOL
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The budgets for both are controlled by Westminster on the basis that Wales will get a percentage of what England gets , if Westminster cuts the English budgets then we automatically get ours cut too 
and if incrases it follows to?
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The budgets for both are controlled by Westminster on the basis that Wales will get a percentage of what England gets , if Westminster cuts the English budgets then we automatically get ours cut too 
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But let's not mention the money that is wasted on big years and his coronation , or the 50 billion that is still missing from PPE , or the strikes that everyone is participating in , or the 5 billion pound that is taken from the Welsh budget or even energy prices going up 140x faster in the UK than the rest of Europe ...no let's not look at the privatisation by stealth of the NHS or even the schools falling apart around the kids .....no I agree running our own affairs will make it worse , but I'm not sure how much wiggle room we have left as Westminster is owning the let's race to the bottom of the pond with its current list of policies after 13 years of un interrupted power ....
Maybe they will go back cap in hand to their Russian paymasters yet again  
education and health are devolved powers though? 
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What's a British republican 
soke one who believes in the uk but not a monarchy
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But let's not mention the money that is wasted on big years and his coronation , or the 50 billion that is still missing from PPE , or the strikes that everyone is participating in , or the 5 billion pound that is taken from the Welsh budget or even energy prices going up 140x faster in the UK than the rest of Europe ...no let's not look at the privatisation by stealth of the NHS or even the schools falling apart around the kids .....no I agree running our own affairs will make it worse , but I'm not sure how much wiggle room we have left as Westminster is owning the let's race to the bottom of the pond with its current list of policies after 13 years of un interrupted power ....
Maybe they will go back cap in hand to their Russian paymasters yet again 
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Comparing to vastly Desperate entities with vastly different resources available ..infact you have actually given strength to the independence arguement as what is seen in your comparison is Wales doing poorly compared to Scotland , where Wales has far fewer available powers ..so the greater grip Westminster has , results in the country suffering more 
the scottish health povery  and education recirds have gotten worse not better since the snp came to power, if that is your aspratiom for wales to get poorer not better as nation then indy is the way forwardWink
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