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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Pembs Status: Online Points: 50256 |
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Yep mea culpa on this one. |
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Fscarlet ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 26 January 2015 Status: Offline Points: 8644 |
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Wow, Europe did so well & got to hand it to them the USA did well to keep the score line from being embarrassing.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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Fantastic performance by Europe's big boys. Sheffler's problems from 8 foot in surfaced again & kept Rahm in the game. Hovland, Hatton, McIlroy never in doubt. Rose fought to the end against their best player & Fleetwood & McIntyre closed it out. A huge lesson is there for the Americans but if they are true to form they will ignore it as usual.
Hopefully Donald will be retained for Beth Page Black in two years which will, as usual, be a huge test of character with US fans no doubt showing us a lot of the worst side of the game. The course set up made a massive difference. The Americans never really came to terms with hitting the fairway with penal rough lining both sides. It was not as if the fairways were narrow, they weren't. Perhaps they should learn to make more of their tournament venues challenge players to use all 14 clubs instead of the usual driver/3 wood wedge putter routine. Whatever the machinations it was compelling viewing & huge entertainment. To see my 86 year old neighbour ( round for some Sunday roast) screaming "get in there" to one of Tommy's putts late on made my day.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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All I can say bois bach is oh ye of little faith.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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All I can say bois bach is oh ye of little faith.
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ladram ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26652 |
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[QUOTE=ladram]I think the core of the European team are in form and can carry us to victory this time and if Luke takes a day to Sicily I'm sure there are some 28 handicappers who can make the Yanks an offer they can't refuse
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Grammar School Boy ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 27 July 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 1552 |
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Got a little close there, but the big guns did their bit, and it was enough. Donald did well as the captain, and they may want to keep him for NY in 2 years time as that will be a real challenge.
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Pembs Status: Online Points: 50256 |
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Sorry, yes you’re right. Hatton and Fitzpatrick have the game to score a point too.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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Yes Rose's experience has coaxed the best out of McIntyre who looked like a rabbit in the headlights over the first few holes which is pretty understandable. Most of the required 4 points need to come from the five you have listed along with Hatton who is a fine player.
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Pembs Status: Online Points: 50256 |
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The 3-1 to the US yesterday afternoon keep the door open a little. Beyond Rahm, Rose, McIlroy, Hovland, Fleetwood and maybe one or two others, the US have a head to head advantage. Both teams have to put out their big guns in the first games of course.
Hats off to Justin Rose. He’s been magnificent. Not something I predicted ( then again my predictions are generally woeful!) |
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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Sheffler's putting, bearing in mind he is World No 1, is woeful & we can only imagine how good he would be if he got it sorted. The nonsense about not wearing the cap and being paid is pretty typical of many in the American team who really don't get that there is golf outside the US.
Some of the decisions made by players & management suggest to me that, despite the rhetoric, this tournament is something of a side issue for them. For instance no American player has played at the Italian Open in the last two years despite it being played at Marco Simone. Add in the fact that most of the team took 4 weeks off golf in the build up. Would they take that route before a major - absolutely not. Luke Donald & his team have played a blinder so far in preparation & motivation. The constant theme of the European hero Seve is just one of the clever things. I see Rory got quite excited with Cantlay's caddie for running across his line before the final putts on the 18th - even confronting him in the car park. Rory epitomises for me the desire to win being shown by all involved with Europe. He hasn't quite found his A game yet but even his B+ is usually good enough. If Luke Donald had been offered a 5 point lead going into the singles on Friday morning he would have bitten your hand off. However a word of caution - nothing is won until its won. Donald has top loaded his singles format so the big beasts of the European team need to show up one more time.
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Wil Chips ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 August 2009 Location: Pembs Status: Online Points: 50256 |
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It's clear that there's a motivation issue with some in the US team...can't be helped by the scoreboard of course.
Asking why they aren't paid to play in this event (Cantlay and his mate Schaufle) is undermining his team and skipper. Watching Scotty Sheffler in tears after losing 9&7 suggests it's not him. It's the appropriate reaction to a record defeat. Where his golf has been of late regrettably though...he's way off on his usual immaculate short game. Edited by Wil Chips - 30 September 2023 at 12:20pm |
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aber-fan ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 October 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 18497 |
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So - 3-1 to Europe this morning makes it 91/2 to 2 1/2 overall.
Surely Europe can't lose from that position - can they?
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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Amazing result this morning for Hovland and Åberg - a 9 & 7 win.
ATM - Europe up in 2 more matches, USA in one with a few holes to go.
Edited by aber-fan - 30 September 2023 at 10:03am |
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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Great day without doubt - Europe's big boys turned up big time while the Americans seemed quite subdued. Nothing dropped for them on the greens which must change. Talk of illness in the camp leading to some energy issues. I knew we could rely on our Sicilian brothers to lend a hand.
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