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    Posted: 22 November 2023 at 7:28am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

The Welsh government have passed a law saying that they can impose tolls and ULEZ areas in Wales although labour says it has no intention to do so Drakeford also said that Elvis is alive and lives in Porthcawl and the tooth fairy is to be taxed on her earnings.

welsh labour are destroying porthcawl too
the elvis festival ended (The biggest 1 in the world) because welsh labour are destroying coney beach thus destroying the biggest caravan park in europe at trekko bay (theyre building a load of flats there apparently)

Ive no idea why were all banging on abut the tories in london when its welsh labour that is destroying wales 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2023 at 6:37am
The Welsh government have passed a law saying that they can impose tolls and ULEZ areas in Wales although labour says it has no intention to do so Drakeford also said that Elvis is alive and lives in Porthcawl and the tooth fairy is to be taxed on her earnings.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Out of curio how do 40 mph  roafs compare to 30 mph injury wise? ? If they are lower Maybe we should increase not reduce soeed! There are a lot more (well there were a lot more) 30 mph roads than 20 mph roads than 30 mph so it stands to reason there will be more fatalities on these roads. I dare say there are less pedestrians killed and injured on motor ways then there are on 20 mph and 30 mph roads? See how easy it is to bend  stats to your view point

firefighters and other emergency workers castguard paramedics etc are saying theyre arriving late to their work places or fire stations as a result of the 20 mph to get to work in the 1st place.....fires dont wait for speed cameras....Yet another of the infinite negative scenarios not considered by the welsh govt
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The Welsh government can set the speed limits to whatever they like! The crucial bit, is how effective it's going to be going forwards, which ultimately comes down to how well it's going to be policed.

Unfortunately, there are not enough police on our roads to be able to police this effectively, and whilst this change has been brought in, in an attempt to reduce accidents and risk to live, it's down to us individuals to do the right thing and abide by it. 

Unfortunately, once again, as many have already mentioned, people do whatever they like on the roads these days, and again, there aren't currently enough police on our roads to tackle the existing problems on our roads, let along trying to enforce by catching drivers speeding above 20mph.

Inner cities, towns, around schools and area's where streets are narrow, parking is an issue etc etc, 20mph is definitely going to help for sure, but on the outskirts of cities, towns and even villages where residential areas are at minimum, I just don't get it.

Add in the poor attempt at implementing this with poor signage, or not even updating existing signage, it's just smacks extremely poor planning.
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To be honest between the speed bumps and the potholes in gowerton 20mph is an achievement.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I find myself driving slower overall. Not just on the 20mph zone but because I’m too slow to process multiple speed limits around my home so sort of pick the lowest one and stick to it 😊

1 mile right out of my drive it’s 30-60-40-20-40-60.

1 mile left it’s 30-60-20-60-20-40-60

I can really identify with that feeling. There seems to be too much variation of speed limits in short distances . Hopefully this will all be looked at over the next year 🙏
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I find myself driving slower overall. Not just on the 20mph zone but because I’m too slow to process multiple speed limits around my home so sort of pick the lowest one and stick to it 😊

1 mile right out of my drive it’s 30-60-40-20-40-60.

1 mile left it’s 30-60-20-60-20-40-60

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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Been in Edinburgh these last few nights. Took a taxi into the suburbs to see clients and once out of the busy parts, it was very speedy although never fear-inducing.

We complimented the driving and saying it reminded us of being in Italy. We enquired about the speed relative to the limits. Of the 20 mph zones, he said, “Och! No one pay any attention to those”.
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I see Sunak is looking into reversing the changes. In fact he’s promising a few sane looking things that can get him votes. You could swear there’s a general election next year. 
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Been in Edinburgh these last few nights. Took a taxi into the suburbs to see clients and once out of the busy parts, it was very speedy although never fear-inducing.

We complimented the driving and saying it reminded us of being in Italy. We enquired about the speed relative to the limits. Of the 20 mph zones, he said, “Och! No one pay any attention to those”.
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Been in Edinburgh these last few nights. Took a taxi into the suburbs to see clients and once out of the busy parts, it was very speedy although never fear-inducing.

We complimented the driving and saying it reminded us of being in Italy. We enquired about the speed relative to the limits. Of the 20 mph zones, he said, “Och! No one pay any attention to those”.
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Get a bit off nessun dorma on for me please Wink
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Tbh I think the new law may just have slow many people down in general as you become more aware of speed when you move up to 30 or 40 mph on urban roads. Having driven around since the law came in I can’t notice any difference eg no aggression or tailgating etc . Personally I would have thought Wales had issues to deal with and speed of getting from A to B isn’t a proper issue affecting the state of the country- it’s a habit change to me. 
. Ha when you’re a pensioner you have all the tine in the world. I can picture you with drving gloves on and a cravat serenly gliding through the countryside with some wonderful italian opera singer blasting out of the car stero Wink.   Like a west walian terry thomas Never mind speed limits get these road works sorted out, that heads of the valleys thing has been going on for ever  and don’t get me started on the brynglas tunnell
Ha ha.. you have sussed me! 😉 I’m off now for a leisurely drive to the Coffee Shop 🚘😉

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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Tbh I think the new law may just have slow many people down in general as you become more aware of speed when you move up to 30 or 40 mph on urban roads. Having driven around since the law came in I can’t notice any difference eg no aggression or tailgating etc . Personally I would have thought Wales had issues to deal with and speed of getting from A to B isn’t a proper issue affecting the state of the country- it’s a habit change to me. 
. Ha when your a pensioner you have all the tine in the world. I can picture you with drving gloves on and a cravat serenly gliding through the countryside with some wonderful italian opera singer blasting out of the car stero Wink.   Like a west walian terry thomas Never mind speed limits get these road works sorted out, that heads of the valleys thing has been going on for ever and don’t get me started on the brynglas tunnell

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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Surely one of the points here is that the petition is or may have passed 1/2 million signatures whereas i believe 10,000 were needed for it to be discussed at the senydd only for dripford to say there is to be no going back well surely that's what democracy is all about?

There is no democracy in Wales. 
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Surely one of the points here is that the petition is or may have passed 1/2 million signatures whereas i believe 10,000 were needed for it to be discussed at the senydd only for dripford to say there is to be no going back well surely that's what democracy is all about?
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