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    Posted: 18 September 2023 at 7:17pm
The Fijian missing last minute kick will cost us dear it would have deprived Aus of bonus point. 
Don’t fancy our chances against Aus they will pick themselves up and be firing on all cylinders. We have no props to put on bench the non selection of Wyn could cost us dear.
Hope to god no injuries to Cawdor or Rowlands or a centre or we in deep doo doos.

Having said that we could even beat Aus and lose to Georgia that would be typical Welsh rugby
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Australia’s discipline yesterday was shocking, 18 penalties in all and a at the breakdown.  Pressurise them in that area (as Fiji did) and then let Biggar or HP kick the penalties.
However, despite playing so poorly against Fiji they still managed to stay within 7 points and out score Fiji 3 tries to 1, so even with little possession they can still keep the scoreboard ticking.
As long as we start with halfbacks from the first game and centre partnership we should be too strong.
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Aus were very poor yesterday, possibly the worst performance I have seen Aus give in recent memory.

If we stay disciplined and calm, (asking a lot), we should win against that team, but we have a habit of self destruction late in recent games which had been cured in Gats' first tenure.  I don't see us conceding 4 tries unless we get carded heavily, so discipline will be a key factor. I would pick Jenkins over Beard personally, in view of his greater hustle and mobility, but leave the team otherwise unchanged, hoping that Biggar is fully fit to play.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

It’s very possible that 3 teams will end up on 16pts.

It’s a bit of a charade if that happens.

I have elected to go with Wales beating Australia and Georgia and topping the group.
It’s far easier on the brain.

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He's cleaned me out already mun...I'll get my own back on him on 'Jonathon' on Thursday though....me and my oldest have the most cunning of cunning plans ....

My 18 year old son is also cleaning me out on the RWC fantasy league too...he's like 300th overall or something...and picking players based on their surnames and kits he likes....like yesterday he picked Grant 'Williams' and made him his captain and tripe point scorers just because they have the same chuffin surname!
240 points or something like that....it's tough being a dad bois.
 

Some are born lucky I guess! Ken talking about his taking Samson to London for the first time on Jiffy’s show was very amusing . I can imagine. No ferrets in Knightsbridge ! 😉
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Reasons to be cheerful
These players have stood out rowands, morgan, faletau, cawdor, North , LRZ and adams
All these are capable of world class moments ,this can make us dangerous
But the front row has been ropey, beard doesnt do enough I prefer jenkins and wainwright needs a big game
Biggar hopefully can go out with some glory hes a good strong character with lots of bottle
Liam needs to sort his head out and cut out the endless stupid errors
Tompkins hot and cold needs to focus on errors or he will be replaced
Lineout is a huge achilles heel we must sort that or theyll ruin our set piece ball
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

It’s very possible that 3 teams will end up on 16pts.

It’s a bit of a charade if that happens.

I have elected to go with Wales beating Australia and Georgia and topping the group.
It’s far easier on the brain.

 Heart or Head?  ( or perhaps a £ 10 bet with the boy 😉)


He's cleaned me out already mun...I'll get my own back on him on 'Jonathon' on Thursday though....me and my oldest have the most cunning of cunning plans ....

My 18 year old son is also cleaning me out on the RWC fantasy league too...he's like 300th overall or something...and picking players based on their surnames and kits he likes....like yesterday he picked Grant 'Williams' and made him his captain and tripe point scorers just because they have the same chuffin surname!
240 points or something like that....it's tough being a dad bois.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

It’s very possible that 3 teams will end up on 16pts.

It’s a bit of a charade if that happens.

I have elected to go with Wales beating Australia and Georgia and topping the group.
It’s far easier on the brain.

 Heart or Head?  ( or perhaps a £ 10 bet with the boy 😉)
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I do believe that we can win against Australia and actually being in France will be better for us as opposed to the cauldron and pressure effect that the Millennium has. Which will hopefully negate all the brain squashing maths and variables
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It’s very possible that 3 teams will end up on 16pts.

It’s a bit of a charade if that happens.

I have elected to go with Wales beating Australia and Georgia and topping the group.
It’s far easier on the brain.
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The last two matches in our group are Wales/Georgia on 7 October and Fiji/Portugal on 8th, so if it comes down to points difference both countries will be at an advantage compared to Australia, particularly Fiji.
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Cheers - nursing a slightly bad head in Nice so confirmation welcomed!
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[QUOTE=Kentexile]If we lose to Australia then assuming the other 2 teams aren’t in the mix then the head to head outcome falls away as all teams will have one win against the other teams if tied on eg 16 points 
In that case it goes to points difference or as world rugby puts it
  1. The Team which has the best difference between points scored for and points scored against in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked.
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Looks right to me Mark. 
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If we lose to Australia then assuming the other 2 teams aren’t in the mix then the head to head outcome falls away as all teams will have one win against the other teams if tied on eg 16 points 
In that case it goes to points difference or as world rugby puts it
  1. The Team which has the best difference between points scored for and points scored against in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked.
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Originally posted by Kentexile Kentexile wrote:

Points difference first for a 3 way tie


Im not sure thats right....

Originally posted by RWC2023 RWC2023 wrote:


If at the completion of the pool phase two or more Teams are level on Match points, then the following criteria shall be used in the following order until one of the Teams can be determined as the higher ranked:

  1. The winner of the Match in which the two tied Teams have played each other shall be the higher ranked.
  2. The Team which has the best difference between points scored for and points scored against in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked.
  3. The Team which has the best difference between tries scored for and tries scored against in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked.
  4. The Team which has scored most points in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked.
  5. The Team which has scored most tries in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked.
  6. Should the tie be unresolved at the conclusion of steps 1 through 5, the rankings as per the updated. Official World Rugby World Rankings on October 14, 2019 will determine the higher ranked Team.

For clarification, in the case of a tie between three or more Teams at the end of the pool phase, once the highest ranked Team has been determined following the above criteria, to determine the next higher ranked Team the process would repeat, starting at criterion 1.
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Points difference first for a 3 way tie
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Kentexile Kentexile wrote:

Most points Fiji and Aus can get is 16- we need 17 to guarantee qualification so if we keep Aus to a win with no BP take a losing one ourselves and get 5 points v Georgia we will be fine. Two wins would be better but …
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We need 16 points to be sure as our match day win over Fiji is the first decider when teams finish level on points.
There is a possibility that we, together with Australia and Fiji, could finish level on points. How would placing be decided in that case? 
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