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    Posted: 30 October 2022 at 6:15pm
So the junior clubs didn't vote to bring the game into the 21st century ...Another self serving decision by the nobodies of Welsh rugby ....They should all hang their heads in shame , the self serving vermin Angry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gaffer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2022 at 6:42pm
It's much more important that Aberflyarf RFC from Division 9 East keeps its representative on the board so he can fly the world and stay in 5* hotels at no cost in his WRU blazer. Standing up for the rights of the local clubs against the bully-boy regions. Sovrenty innit. Something like that anyway...
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Thats it in a nut shell
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2022 at 7:55pm
I assume it was an open vote or was it secret? Surely it would be documented.The journalists need to prepare a list and do a phone calls to gather their responses on the voting.This is important information 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2022 at 7:59pm
What i have seen is that roughly 69% voted for it...75% for a proposal to be passed is a ridiculous percentage ....unbelievable 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2022 at 8:25pm
Isnt the welsh rugby constitution based on some archaic communist or marxist blueprint? Or did I dream that up lol Don get me wrong its vital to feed the grass roots, but the tail is wagging the dog here and the grass roots is feeding itself by wasting their finding by paying pub players a fortune and running out of cash to run their junior sides
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https://twitter.com/simonrug/status/1586737468874924033
Link for Simon Thomas on twitter with results. 65.6% out of 221 votes voted for.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2022 at 12:33am
That is dreadful, shameful news, talk about the tail wagging the dog.
Typical WRU. What hope is there?

The same small clubs voted out Gareth Davies, when he wanted to make serious but unpopular decisions
like reducing the number of clubs in the premiership.
This would have concentrated better players in a smaller division which would probably increase the standards and reduce the gap between the premiership and region.

What is agreed ..and INCREASED division, its laughable! LOL

We will never get anywhere in Wales the way things are run.
Edward 1st knew how to conquer Wales. Divide and conquer. The Welsh could never agree & work together.
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Needed 10 delegates to change their vote and it would have passed.
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It’s all down to money, everyone wants more of it the schools the grass roots the pro game thr womens game the test team.  This will never get resolved
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2022 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

So the junior clubs didn't vote to bring the game into the 21st century ...Another self serving decision by the nobodies of Welsh rugby ....They should all hang their heads in shame , the self serving vermin Angry
in fairness most of them
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The game is in a death spiral, no other way to put it unless things change.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gate12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2022 at 4:11pm
Not sure what the messaging was like to the clubs from Butcher or their reasons for voting against it, would be interested to know though if anyone knows any of the clubs that didn't go with it.

I'm struggling to see why they wouldn't vote for it, ultimately the community elected board members would have retained the majority vote on the board with 8 members against the remaining 5.

The simplest way of looking at it is they've decided that one of the 8 elected members by the clubs must be chair over the 4/5 people they've brought in specifically because of their capability and calibre in that environment, i.e. they're voting against the likely most suitable person in the room being chair.

Neither the pro or community game have much trust in the WRU, and I'd guess that the community games concern is that the board is slowly trying to push them out through incremental changes.

The WRU might be better off just putting all their cards out on the table of their long-term intentions (which no-one seems to know what they are beyond 'making the game better') and let them decide from there.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2022 at 4:14pm
I think the excuse some clubs gave is that they were only made aware of the plans a week ago and had little time to ask the WRU for clarification on what it would mean for them. Poor excuse if you ask me.

At the meeting another motion brought by the clubs was to upgrade the time served on the board from 9 years to 12 years!!! Unbelievable how much gravy some of these people want on their train. It didn't get voted through.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2022 at 4:26pm
The board of the wru backed this motion so did the the pro sides and so did the majority of the grass roots clubs, 75 per cent is a high threshold. Did every club even vote?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2022 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Not sure what the messaging was like to the clubs from Butcher or their reasons for voting against it, would be interested to know though if anyone knows any of the clubs that didn't go with it.

I'm struggling to see why they wouldn't vote for it, ultimately the community elected board members would have retained the majority vote on the board with 8 members against the remaining 5.

The simplest way of looking at it is they've decided that one of the 8 elected members by the clubs must be chair over the 4/5 people they've brought in specifically because of their capability and calibre in that environment, i.e. they're voting against the likely most suitable person in the room being chair.

Neither the pro or community game have much trust in the WRU, and I'd guess that the community games concern is that the board is slowly trying to push them out through incremental changes.

The WRU might be better off just putting all their cards out on the table of their long-term intentions (which no-one seems to know what they are beyond 'making the game better') and let them decide from there.

isn’t nigel walker supposed to be pushing this long term vision? 
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