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    Posted: 20 February 2025 at 1:31pm

Wales team v Ireland

15. Blair Murray (Scarlets – 5 caps)
14. Tom Rogers (Scarlets – 7 caps)
13. Max Llewellyn (Gloucester Rugby – 5 caps)
12. Ben Thomas (Cardiff Rugby – 9 caps)
11. Ellis Mee (Scarlets – uncapped)
10. Gareth Anscombe (Gloucester Rugby  – 39 caps)
9. Tomos Williams (Gloucester Rugby – 61 caps)
1. Nicky Smith (Leicester Tigers – 51 caps)
2. Elliot Dee (Dragons | Dreigiau – 53 caps)
3. WillGriff John (Sale Sharks – 2 caps)
4. Will Rowlands (Racing 92 – 38 caps)
5. Dafydd Jenkins (Exeter Chiefs – 20 caps)
6. Jac Morgan (Ospreys– 20 caps) – captain
7. Tommy Reffell (Leicester Tigers – 24 caps)
8. Taulupe Faletau (Cardiff Rugby – 105 caps)

Replacements

16. Evan Lloyd (Cardiff Rugby – 7 caps)
17. Gareth Thomas (Ospreys – 37 caps)
18. Henry Thomas (Scarlets – 6 caps)
19. Teddy Williams (Cardiff Rugby – 3 caps)
20. Aaron Wainwright (Dragons – 54 caps)
21. Rhodri Williams (Dragons – 7 caps)
22. Jarrod Evans (Harlequins – 8 caps)
23. Joe Roberts (Scarlets – 2 caps)



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Well besides the Scarlets backs this is the back line all of Wales have been craving for.

Let's see.
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Disappointed for Eddy James.
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Very inexperienced back five total of 26 caps between them.
Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. We'll soon find out.
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Exciting backs selection provided Ben Thomas isn't carrying too many scars. The selection of WGJ I find baffling. For the Irish they have chosen to give 5 of their next generation talent a game - Osbourne, Clarkson, Boyle, McCarthy & Prendergast.
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Very inexperienced back five total of 26 caps between them.
Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. We'll soon find out.

Nothing to lose really, they go well & it's a master stroke. If it doesn't go well then it's almost like a "this is what we have at the moment."
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Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

Disappointed for Eddy James.

Same here , hasn't done anything wrong, just not the right flavour ice cream for some. 

Hopefully some R&R back at his spiritual home will rejuvenate him after being with Gatlands brain dead coaching.
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

Disappointed for Eddy James.

Same here , hasn't done anything wrong, just not the right flavour ice cream for some. 

Hopefully some R&R back at his spiritual home will rejuvenate him after being with Gatland's brain dead coaching.



I assume it must be about making the most of positional changes during the game rather than any decision on his ability. There's already plenty of cover for the other positions within the starting 15 but only one cover for 13.

If Llewellyn is replaced Ben Thomas stays at 12 and Roberts to 13. 
If Ben Thomas is replaced Llewellyn can go to 12 and Roberts to 13. 
If Blair needs to be replaced, then either Mee or Rogers to 15, Llewellyn to wing and Roberts 13. 
Wing replacement, same result.
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I’m sorry can’t see what the fuss about Ben Thomas is like Tomos Williams talked up by Welsh press but both have failed to live up to hype. 
I hope I’m wrong and we can give Ireland a game would love to beat them but I can’t see it.
We should be targeting Scotland game don’t tho they all they cracked up to be. 
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I might have preferred Rogers at 15 and Murray on the wing, but I suppose there is so much kicking to the opposite wing to chase it might prove useful to have two tall blokes out wide... then again, the Irish are no mugs and might hoist a lot of high balls towards Murray at 15! IF they mess up, though, Murray is dangerous at running ball back. 

Good to see a 10 who plays at 10, and will bring experience... Anscombe our best bet ATM, even if I'm not a great admirer. Not sure about Ben Thomas at 12 but at least he's in his normal position, and has shown some good stuff for the Blues. Hope he has a good day. Llewellyn a baffling omission from the original squad.

Smith at 1 for carrying and scrummaging a good call, as is Dee at 2 for lineout throwing. Baffled by WG John at 3 - he showed nothing at the Scarlets, with Thomas a much better bet IMO. Has he shown good form this season? The rest of the forwards make sense if we are looking to win the race to the breakdown, though Morgan and Reffell are not the bulkiest jackals. Bit surprised Wainwright isn't at 6 with Jac at 7. 

I don't give us much hope of a win. I do hope for a better performance with a few glimmers for the future. 
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Tommy Reffell is by far the best jackeler in the English leagues, he won't let you down and Smith at loosehead has been a revelation at Tigers too, both top players.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Tommy Reffell is by far the best jackeler in the English leagues, he won't let you down and Smith at loosehead has been a revelation at Tigers too, both top players.

Smith isn't too shabby over the ball either...
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

I might have preferred Rogers at 15 and Murray on the wing, but I suppose there is so much kicking to the opposite wing to chase it might prove useful to have two tall blokes out wide... then again, the Irish are no mugs and might hoist a lot of high balls towards Murray at 15! IF they mess up, though, Murray is dangerous at running ball back. 

Good to see a 10 who plays at 10, and will bring experience... Anscombe our best bet ATM, even if I'm not a great admirer. Not sure about Ben Thomas at 12 but at least he's in his normal position, and has shown some good stuff for the Blues. Hope he has a good day. Llewellyn a baffling omission from the original squad.

Smith at 1 for carrying and scrummaging a good call, as is Dee at 2 for lineout throwing. Baffled by WG John at 3 - he showed nothing at the Scarlets, with Thomas a much better bet IMO. Has he shown good form this season? The rest of the forwards make sense if we are looking to win the race to the breakdown, though Morgan and Reffell are not the bulkiest jackals. Bit surprised Wainwright isn't at 6 with Jac at 7. 

I don't give us much hope of a win. I do hope for a better performance with a few glimmers for the future. 
I predict WGJ to exit early, Thomas to play 40 mins.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Tommy Reffell is by far the best jackeler in the English leagues, he won't let you down and Smith at loosehead has been a revelation at Tigers too, both top players.

No doubting Reffell's jackaling - but the Irish back row are so beefy, he's liable to get knocked yards backwards before he can convince the ref that he had 'hands on the ball'. Smith can also do a job there, though.
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Delighted for Ellis Mee and that Blair Murray doesn’t have to play two positions (refers to my error on a previous thread) plus that Tomi is on the other wing instead of Adams.

Disappointed not to see Dan Edwards in the 23. Disappointed, too, for Eddy James.

Share the consternation about tight head, although glad Henry has the chance of a little rest before being thrown into the fray. 
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Thats a bit more like it...an actual side with a few proper fly halves and a few exciting prospects....even if we lose hopefully some of these boys can develop for the future...Id ike to think set piece will go ok...Dee and thomas offer experience and john a real journeyman everyoone seems to doubt him a bit...

Our bench looks spicier than before too....wainwright jarod and joe roberts could all make an impact...refelll and morgan may slow up irish ball...but.wainwright will surely be needed to carry ball too..anscombe should bring some class and composure....Jarod is such a class 10 off the bench I hope he goes well too as hes the most talented 10 we have atm...Joe surprised me but hes a proper 13 so does offer an attacking threat off the bench too...as lofty says ..llewelyn can play 12 too....surprised adams is out..is he injured? back 3 inter changable...not sure how good any of them are yet tbh....we will soon find out

Just hope the team feels no pressure as no one is expecting anything and just plays smart rugby, actually plays whats in front of them, not just some pre-rehearsed nonsense and actually enjoy the occasion. 


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