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All blacks got stuffed tonight by South Africa 
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Record defeat for the AB’s.

Big statement from SA.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2023 at 5:41am
NZ 7 SA 35

If you didn't see it - this was a thrashing and a humiliation for the All Blacks. If you didn't see it, don't be fooled by the red card at the end of the first half - iirc the ABs didn't get into the SA 22 until the 37th minute! They were totally dominated physically - the one thing you could say was that for quite a while they tackled well, as wave after wave of Boks thundered towards their line. They simply had no answer.

Takeaways from this:

1. SA are serious contenders for the prize (along with France and Ireland, IMO).

2. You never know with NZ, but it's difficult to see them as serious contenders after that game - plus, one of their best props came off injured and Barrett (the red card) will presumably miss some games.

3. The performance of Wales seconds last week does not look too bad compared to that of NZ firsts! They were thrashed, yes - but it wasn't our best team. NZ can't claim that excuse.

I wonder what we may learn today from England v Fiji?


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I watched the game and it was a thrashing and it could have been a lot more. New Zealand were penalised off the park. This was down to South African pressure but also I think having four northern hemisphere officials. New Zealand didn't get away with things they normally do at home. Also with so many South Africans playing in France and their sides playing in the URC they know what they can and can't do with the officials. The only side to have any strength in depth up front like South Africa is france. 
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Originally posted by tim d tim d wrote:

I watched the game and it was a thrashing and it could have been a lot more. New Zealand were penalised off the park. This was down to South African pressure but also I think having four northern hemisphere officials. New Zealand didn't get away with things they normally do at home. Also with so many South Africans playing in France and their sides playing in the URC they know what they can and can't do with the officials. The only side to have any strength in depth up front like South Africa is france. 

Thanks for the reports gents. Does sound like a comprehensive victory. South Africa got their timing right finding form in Japan - they seem to be moving through the gears for this one. This boy Moody is only 20 - he played 13 last night I understand - going to be some player. The only weakness I see is at 10. Anything happen to Libbok & they are stretched. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cofi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 September 2023 at 6:54am
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Never a penalty try he lost the ball 
Mason Grady should have held on to the ball 

Quite... the Bok touched the ball, probably forward. Even if he didn't, there was no way he would recover it having overrun the ball, so no try - so no penalty try. 

Boks clearly the stronger side, but this ref is and always has been useless.

According to BBC, try was given by Joy Neville. Brace did not want to award the try.

Thats not quite true- both wanted to give the try. But Brace was a bit more cautious. There was one angle which suggested the ball, which was still just rising lept upwards before Dyers hand got to it. So the saffer knocked the ball on. 

This pair of Cardiff props were penalised repeatedly again. So from our scrum on halfway, we found ourselves defending in our 22 a couple of times. That doesnt work against the boks. IF Wyn and Samson were there, we'd probably have won the scrum and been playing in their half. 

Props need to be capable of proping.


Agreed with you at the time but have been giving this more thought and Gats really has treated Wyn Jones badly. Should have at least  included him in the original squad to  assess if he was getting his form back after injury.  They certainly could do with him now
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