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    Posted: 09 March 2022 at 2:06pm

Wales: Liam Williams; Alex Cuthbert, Owen Watkin, Jonathan Davies, Josh Adams; Dan Biggar, Tomos Williams; Gareth Thomas, Ryan Elias, Tomas Francis, Will Rowlands, Adam Beard, Seb Davies, Josh Navidi, Taulupe Faletau.

Replacements: Dewi Lake, Wyn Jones, Dillon Lewis, Ross Moriarty, Jac Morgan, Kieran Hardy, Gareth Anscombe, Louis Rees-Zammit.


Well Tompkins, who is not my favourite centre, plays his best game for Wales and the disappears from the squad. Unless he's injured thats a huge call. Foxy will have his work cut out as he has played less rubgy in the past month than Navidi. I remain totally baffled by the omission of Cawdor.

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No second row cover on the bench could be a big mistake. 
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

No second row cover on the bench could be a big mistake. 

Guess the thinking is they have Seb at 6. 
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Seb at 6 worth a go, lot of pressure on naividi to step up after 1 game
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Seb at 6 worth a go, lot of pressure on naividi to step up after 1 game

Yes I like the look of Seb - he could become a bigger version of Aaron. I think Navidi's selection is a clear indicator that they don't rate our breakdown work to date. Basham gone from great Welsh hope to nowhere. Funny old game. Glad to see Gareth Thomas getting a start - both Wyn & Francis just do not carry enough for modern day props. 
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Classic Wales. The second a player is 'fit' he's thrown into the toughest of games. Totally desperate.
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Bet Cawdor wishes he was in Durban.Confused
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Ok where to start. Thomas deserves a go at prop fair enough, Francis I hope is fit. 12 Tompkins has concussion so foxy edges out willis, close but fair call. Cawdors ommission is crazy. The back row is the real conundrum. Hes used 8 flankers in 3 tests, he seems confused over his best trio. Ok faletau is a nailed on whenever hes fit. The 6 and 7 jerseys are up for grabs.  Basham came and went with a bang, as did ellis jenkins in the autumn. Now Morgan is the next big thing. Meanwhile hes decided to test out seb as a 6 again, not sure why he never gets a go at lock. He's a good mobile player, decent lineout option too. Navidi is world class but hes barely played so a big gamble, hope it pays off.

Btw I dont think france are the best team in the world yet , the most talented probably. Theyre not some unbeatable untouchable side. The scots got hammered late on but pushed them a lot, they won in paris just 11 months ago too. England beat them at twickers with a pretty average solid pack performance scrapping for every ball. Ireland gave them trouble second half with 3 quick tries. Theyre irrepressible in attack not so clever on the back foot. in short theyre class but beatable
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Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Ok where to start. Thomas deserves a go at prop fair enough, Francis I hope is fit. 12 Tompkins has concussion so foxy edges out willis, close but fair call. Cawdors ommission is crazy. The back row is the real conundrum. Hes used 8 flankers in 3 tests, he seems confused over his best trio. Ok faletau is a nailed on whenever hes fit. The 6 and 7 jerseys are up for grabs.  Basham came and went with a bang, as did ellis jenkins in the autumn. Now Morgan is the next big thing. Meanwhile hes decided to test out seb as a 6 again, not sure why he never gets a go at lock. He's a good mobile player, decent lineout option too. Navidi is world class but hes barely played so a big gamble, hope it pays off.

Btw I dont think france are the best team in the world yet , the most talented probably. Theyre not some unbeatable untouchable side. The scots got hammered late on but pushed them a lot, they won in paris just 11 months ago too. England beat them at twickers with a pretty average solid pack performance scrapping for every ball. Ireland gave them trouble second half with 3 quick tries. Theyre irrepressible in attack not so clever on the back foot. in short theyre class but beatable

Decent summation. France are not the finished article yet but to stand a chance against them you have to have a really tough hard carrying front 5 and be superbly competitive at the breakdown. We, of course, gave them a real fright in Paris last season & with better thinking from our half backs should have won it. They have improved, we have not so its a tall order. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Ok where to start. Thomas deserves a go at prop fair enough, Francis I hope is fit. 12 Tompkins has concussion so foxy edges out willis, close but fair call. Cawdors ommission is crazy. The back row is the real conundrum. Hes used 8 flankers in 3 tests, he seems confused over his best trio. Ok faletau is a nailed on whenever hes fit. The 6 and 7 jerseys are up for grabs.  Basham came and went with a bang, as did ellis jenkins in the autumn. Now Morgan is the next big thing. Meanwhile hes decided to test out seb as a 6 again, not sure why he never gets a go at lock. He's a good mobile player, decent lineout option too. Navidi is world class but hes barely played so a big gamble, hope it pays off.

Btw I dont think france are the best team in the world yet , the most talented probably. Theyre not some unbeatable untouchable side. The scots got hammered late on but pushed them a lot, they won in paris just 11 months ago too. England beat them at twickers with a pretty average solid pack performance scrapping for every ball. Ireland gave them trouble second half with 3 quick tries. Theyre irrepressible in attack not so clever on the back foot. in short theyre class but beatable

Decent summation. France are not the finished article yet but to stand a chance against them you have to have a really tough hard carrying front 5 and be superbly competitive at the breakdown. We, of course, gave them a real fright in Paris last season & with better thinking from our half backs should have won it. They have improved, we have not so its a tall order. 

And a better refereeing performance. Sanjay did not deserve a YC, and Wyn was nearly over the line. LRZ just failed to get over in the corner, so it should have come back for a YC and a penalty try.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cofi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 March 2022 at 4:14pm
So Gareth Thomas is supposed to carry for how many metres exactly?
 O and to win the scrums, o and to lifft to a dodgy line out , o and to clear out the rucks - all on his first start in a Welsh shirt all against a rampant French team with their tails up. No pressure there then Gar boy!!

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Gonna put the boat out here and suggest that whatever team we pick won’t make much difference 🤷‍♂️ 

I would like to see: 

Jac Morgan start
Hardy start
JD at 12
Rees Zammit back on wing (for Cuthbert - who does 3 outstanding things and then makes 2 mistakes) 

Think Navidi might start just because we need the experience to deal with DuPont round the ruck 
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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Gonna put the boat out here and suggest that whatever team we pick won’t make much difference 🤷‍♂️ 

I would like to see: 

Jac Morgan start
Hardy start
JD at 12
Rees Zammit back on wing (for Cuthbert - who does 3 outstanding things and then makes 2 mistakes) 

Think Navidi might start just because we need the experience to deal with DuPont round the ruck 

Well you got one of your wishes with the other 3 on the bench. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dyniol53 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 March 2022 at 4:28pm
Oh shi* I forgot it’s a Friday game so team out today

Wales: 

L Williams; Cuthbert, Watkin, J Davies, Adams; Biggar (capt), T Williams; G Thomas, Elias, Francis, Rowlands, Beard, S Davies, Navidi, Faletau.

Replacements: Lake, W Jones, D Lewis, Moriarty, J Morgan, Hardy, Anscombe, Rees-Zammit.

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Back row selection is baffling - France will overwhelm the breakdown. I really don’t think Pivac has a clue about what he wants or where Wales are going. To expect Seb to cover 4/5 after 60 minutes of being battered at 6 is madness. This seems a panicked, damage limitation selection. Totally incoherent in terms of playing style. He hopes he’s going to get lucky. A fraud.
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