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GPR - Rochester
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 8:55am |
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All good fun this!!!! Hathaway is taller I think than Joe so he & Mee should not be found wanting aerially. Freeman is a handful though & they will kick a lot. I fully understand your reasoning with Lake; my worry is that they are going to come hard at the breakdown with Curry & Itoje & look to carry hard early to silence the crowd. Lake is better suited to that confrontation. Even if he only lasts the first half I will start to fancy our chances if we get to half time within a score. Again with Tomos - we both want to see Jarrod start but he needs the best service he can get because he really takes the ball to the line & makes very late passing decisions. I totally agree with you - the English centres regardless of who they play outside Dingwall are there for the taking & Jarrod could be just the man to do it. The more I write the more convinced I am that we can win.!!!!!! Another area I think England are vulnerable is the lineout. They have gone with a back row which is breakdown heavy so no real lineout threats. We have Faletau, Jenkins & Teddy hopefully all good options against Itoje & Chessum who are both excellent options. They may of course go for a lot of reduced lineout numbers on their throws to limit our numbers.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 9:42am |
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Hathaway is taller than Joe, but not Max Llewellyn! I'm torn if I'm honest... we do need continuity at centre, just thought Joe was a good attacking threat on Saturday.
I think with Lake it'll be the coaches seeing how he goes in training this week. Bringing him back in versus England is the kind of thing that will stoke him up! With regards to the lineout, you seem to inadvertantly made a good point for starting Plumtree at 6! He's good at the lineout and at being a nuisance in the close-quarters. Can't see it happening, but him at 6, Williams at 5, then Waintwright instead of Reffell on the bench could be a big call.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 11:19am |
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I would put Hathaway on the wing, drop the half backs, Lake and Henry Thomas front row, Teddy Williams for Rowlands 2nd row, and Wainwright back row for Reffell.
While we may loose some accuracy at 2, I feel we need the grunt and competitiveness value of Lake. Half Backs, Tomas has been poor all series, while Anscombe had an ok game against Ireland, but again was poor, and shows is age against Scotland look at times like a rabbit in the headlights, so Rhodri & Evans, with maybe Bevan & Edwards on the bench. We have to be less passive than last Saturday, and play with adventure in the right areas, will have to remind Ben Thomas of that. The press say play on form, but obviously this does not cover some "stars" I have been disappointed with some senior players who have done virtually nothing, I said 2 weeks ago after the Irish game, we'll loose to Scotland, but beat England, and I'll stick with that.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 11:46am |
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Sound arguments there Dai.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 12:22pm |
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Nic Berry is Saturday’s referee.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 1:22pm |
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Put in the very simplest of terms, I don't really care who wears the red shirts but I just want to see our boys win !
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 1:49pm |
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I think most of us are aligned on Teddy Williams, Wainwright and Jarrod Evans starting.
Dee v Lake - I can see if both ways. Lake is a combative leader so maybe against England you go with that but I trust Bomb in training to see where they are both at. I'm slightly perplexed by the Hathaway support. Hear me out. I like him as a player but he's not known for his aerial ability or defensive prowess. He's very much like a slightly bigger Blair Murray. How much has he played since being called up? I'm not sure there would be as much clamour to put him in if his position wasn't wing. The way I'm looking at it is that Joe played really well out of position and for this, effectively one-off, game we want continuity but also players who have recently played / played well, on the pitch. Moving Llewellyn out to 14 gives us his height and he's used to playing there, meaning Joe can slot in at 13 and continue where he left off against Scotland. When the backs are split, Max can hit the same lines anyway. Just seems, IMHO, to make more sense to put a team out of guys who have already got up to speed at this level recently rather than drop someone in from effectively nothing. Even if we have to shift one guy out one place in the backline.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 2:02pm |
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I agree with Peregos. I was surprised that people were suggesting starting Hathaway.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 2:28pm |
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Hathaway is a threat outwide. Am surprised Dyer hasn't featured always played well for Wales.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 2:34pm |
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You make a compelling case for Roberts at 13 & Llewelyn at 11 - no arguments from me. Joe with the benefit of minutes against Ireland & Scotland ( most of the game) is starting to look like his old self. He also gives us another left kicking option. I would be looking to use Murray's boot at every opportunity, akin to how Ireland use James Lowe. He kicks long & accurately.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 2:38pm |
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Good discussion gentlemen. We almost sound like we know what we're talking about!
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 3:25pm |
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we should win in a heartbeat
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 3:28pm |
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Is plumtree in the squad? If he is Id bring in wainwright to the team and plumtree to the bench replacing reffell who's simply not physical enough.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 3:55pm |
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I agree but would sign Reffell in heart beat for us he would be brilliant fit.
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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 4:12pm |
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I'd like to see
15 - Mee 14 - Llywelyn 13 - James 12 - B Thomas 11 - Murray 10 - J Evans 9 - Rhys Williams 8 - T Faletau 7 - J Morgan 6 - A Wainwright 5 - D Jenkins 4 - T Williams 3 - Assirati 2 - E Dee 1 - N Smith 16 - Lake 17 - G Thomas 18 - W John 19 - W Rowlands 20 - Freddy Thomas 21 - Reffel/Plumtree 22 - T Williams 23 - Roberts I'd go 6-2 as Ben Thomas could take over as outside half in an emergency. ] Edited by Dai Guevara - 11 March 2025 at 5:07pm |
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 6:15pm |
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6-2 is a good shout.
Not sure the logic of throwing James in out of position rather than play Roberts? Also, I think Rhys Williams retired a while ago... but he's probably got a better box kick than Tomos still.
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