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    Posted: 10 September 2023 at 12:01pm
Well the day of reckoning has come. It seemed way off, and all of a sudden ,it upon us !

Expectations are now totally different, and Wales will not be going in to this game with the baggage of 6N champions or anything remotely like that. Probably underdogs

I have awful memories of the day when we lost to Fiji, which led to Gareth Jenkins being sacked
 in the car park ROGER LEWIS. A more slimy snake , you wouldn't find in the jungles of the Congo.
What a way to treat someone, and Gareth has kept a dignified silence every since.

The last world cup, we were behind in the match against Fiji, and it took a absolutely wonderful outside break from Foxy, which led to a try that turned it for us. His reward was an awful injury sustained in that move, from which he has never quite fully recovered.

On to todays game, and there are, I am sure, a host of people forming a que to  compound the misery ,if we fail. If that happens , we need to look at years of WRU mismanagement of the game in Wales , with archaic structures, not fit for purpose. things will get worse soon, as the regions are starved of money, and development will clearly suffer. Regions too need to take some responsibility.

I will however be nervously backing Jac Morgan and the boys 100%, and hopefully they can do themselves justice.
Whatever happens , there is a nucleus of quite young players in Grady, Costelow, Lake, Jenkins, Christ T, and Morgan himself to build on...but could be a long road ahead !
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Wales has a good strategy durino the first half..a batter rugby then weeks ago...come on Wales 
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Can someone permanently retire the inept Shane Williams punditry he's a boring fart 

Is Biggar like Webb on something in France 
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Morgan is no Captain. Biggar easily MOTM. Wales well worth their lead
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God we were lucky
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Originally posted by Milli Milli wrote:

Morgan is no Captain. Biggar easily MOTM. Wales well worth their lead
Presumably MOTM stands for mouth of the match.
Jonathan Davies and Gwyn Jones were highly critical of Biggar mouthing off to all and sundry. 
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Can someone permanently retire the inept Shane Williams punditry he's a boring fart 

Is Biggar like Webb on something in France 

Painkillers for his back I should think. He was in pain for much of the game.
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Should have kept Cawdor on. No control after went off. Biggar, Rowlands and Tompkins  had good games. Tomkins best game for Wales. Huge number of tackles,  would like to see the stats on missed tackles 1st half v 2nd. Big sigh of relief.
I think Fiji could beat the Aussies.
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Yes they can beat Australia and so can we. Playing Portugal next is a big plus for us as there were alot of sore bodies at the end.

In the last few mjnutes the referee stopped reffing the rucks. The Fijians, sealed, went over the top, took out defenders, the whole lot. It should never have got to the dramatic ending. 
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Originally posted by Rob Hunt Rob Hunt wrote:

Originally posted by Milli Milli wrote:

Morgan is no Captain. Biggar easily MOTM. Wales well worth their lead
Presumably MOTM stands for mouth of the match.
Jonathan Davies and Gwyn Jones were highly critical of Biggar mouthing off to all and sundry. 
Biggar controlled the game brilliantly, soon as he went off, we went to pieces.He was right in giving North a bollocking for his stupidness
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Stats from espn:
Rowlands 27 tackles, Morgan 23.
Tackles ,Wales 248, 88%,  Fiji 70, 75%.
Clean breaks, 6 each.
Offloads Wales 9 Fiji 8 !
Territory Fiji 65%, possession Fiji 61%
Metres run Fiji 652, Wales 378
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Think we let them back into the game o er the last 15 minutes after playing well for most of the second half .
2 poor kicks by Tomos Williams led to the sin binning and then a very poor kick out on the full by Liam Williams gave them a chance they could well have taken at the finish.
However considering how badly we have been playing recently a good performance in parts and we should have won more comfortably than we did.
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Originally posted by Rob Hunt Rob Hunt wrote:

Originally posted by Milli Milli wrote:

Morgan is no Captain. Biggar easily MOTM. Wales well worth their lead
Presumably MOTM stands for mouth of the match.
Jonathan Davies and Gwyn Jones were highly critical of Biggar mouthing off to all and sundry. 
he was outstanding for us today tbh morgan rowlands and adams v good to

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A win & 5pts couldn't ask for more. Like everyone else I'm disappointed at the meltdown in the last 15 mins. There are positives - a spirited defence against a very physical side, decent set piece for the most part, no catastrophic injuries (it would seem). Wales are often poor starters so a win here is good news. The brainfarts in this game may wake us up for later games. Wainwright, Jac, Rowlands, Adams had huge games - v good stuff from LRZ, Elias, Biggar, Tomkins - the rest of the starters were in credit. The bench - Reffel, Dee & Jenkins were positives - hard to judge Dyer and Costelow but I thought Domachowski. Lewis and Williams were very poor.

Edited by gaffer - 10 September 2023 at 11:17pm
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Originally posted by Milli Milli wrote:

God we were lucky
Wrong Milli, as much  as I applaud Fiji, both in terms of their skill and the sheer exitment they bring to a game, their conversion rate was poor and if you do'nt take your chances you do'nt deserve  to win.
If they are more clinical,  they could  trouble Australia. 

Gatland sumned it up perfectly afterwards,  when he said it was a disappointing end to the game for Wales
Without taking anything  away from Fiji's resilience, at 65 mins, Wales were 32- 14 up, and somehow, make crass decisions , in the closing  15 mins instead of closing the game down, when Fiji had a man in the bin.
There has been justified criticism  of Biggar, being openly critical  of his team mates.  Some of his anger was justified at the end of the first half however, with some madness on dislpay instead  of clearing  their lines as the clock turned  red.
Unfortunately,  we need his experience  & expertise  to run the ship.
Jac Morgan is still learning,  and in the absence  of AWJ, Ken, Tipuric,  overnight, Biggar( like him or not), is an essential  cog in this campaign. 

I was well impressed with Tomkins tonight. He has his critics, but people forget that he holds his place in top a top Sarries side. 
I did'nt select him in my side for tonight, so I got it wrong too..LOL!

Wales need to move on from this now, making subsequent  improvements in terms of discipline  and closing out  games. 
Beating Portugal isn't a given, but we should be able to gain another bonus point win, and rotate  the squad.
It's been a wonderful  weekend  of rugby,  thoroughly  enjoyable! 
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Biggar was 100% right to rant at the players just before half time..it was awful decision making.......time was up and they were running it from their own line and fumbled it too.........we do have these meltdowns dont we ? liam with his kick out on the full in the lat 2 minutes when he had no pressure on him and the whole pitch to aim for? strange
 
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