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Anyway coming back to reality Webb is up against Dupont ...really looking forward to it.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Grammar School Boy Grammar School Boy wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019.


Has not been the same level of player since the SA Lions tour.
Any idea of the reason?


Maybe I'm being harsh on Wyn on reflection, I see the other 6N LH props like Genge, Porter, Fischetti, Schoeman, Baille offering so much around the park, as well as being solid in the scrums.

Wales just don't have that sort of guy. Wyn is a good scrummager, but he got tumbled in the tight (missed 5 tackles) and isn't a threat at the breakdown.
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in today rugby, be only a good scrummager is not enough...unfortunately WJ is extremely slow for modern rugby ritmo...of course he needs more time to find his form and ritmo


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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Grammar School Boy Grammar School Boy wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019.


Has not been the same level of player since the SA Lions tour.
Any idea of the reason?


Maybe I'm being harsh on Wyn on reflection, I see the other 6N LH props like Genge, Porter, Fischetti, Schoeman, Baille offering so much around the park, as well as being solid in the scrums.

Wales just don't have that sort of guy. Wyn is a good scrummager, but he got tumbled in the tight (missed 5 tackles) and isn't a threat at the breakdown.



But Genge is terrific player...his work rate and threat is now the bar to reach tbh....

your spot on Chips 
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Grammar School Boy Grammar School Boy wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

As an incidental point, Wyn is quite a way from the Wyn of 2019.


Has not been the same level of player since the SA Lions tour.
Any idea of the reason?


Maybe I'm being harsh on Wyn on reflection, I see the other 6N LH props like Genge, Porter, Fischetti, Schoeman, Baille offering so much around the park, as well as being solid in the scrums.

Wales just don't have that sort of guy. Wyn is a good scrummager, but he got tumbled in the tight (missed 5 tackles) and isn't a threat at the breakdown.



But Genge is terrific player...his work rate and threat is now the bar to reach tbh....

your spot on Chips 


The peak Wyn was very good as a jackal iirc.
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Wales across the board lacks tight five forwards that have an all round skill set. Poor carriers. Any other country would have turned Carré and Brown into monsters.
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Wyn was top class in the World Cup and on Lions tour but he was much fitter and leaner then. He's bulked up too much in my opinion, mind you he's very  strong have you seen the WRU clip of him lifting 250kg? I think Gats will get his weight down and be more mobile before World Cup. 
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Originally posted by Coch Coch wrote:

Wyn was top class in the World Cup and on Lions tour but he was much fitter and leaner then. He's bulked up too much in my opinion, mind you he's very  strong have you seen the WRU clip of him lifting 250kg? I think Gats will get his weight down and be more mobile before World Cup. 

You are quite right, Gats does need to get his weight down before the world cup, Wyn could do with a few pounds less as well. Wink
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Wyn hurt his back on the lions tour seems to have been injured a lot since to, brown can’t stay fit and  carre can’t scrummage if we can get them fixed they are the tyoe of props the modern day game suits
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Originally posted by Coch Coch wrote:

Wyn was top class in the World Cup and on Lions tour but he was much fitter and leaner then. He's bulked up too much in my opinion, mind you he's very  strong have you seen the WRU clip of him lifting 250kg? I think Gats will get his weight down and be more mobile before World Cup. 

You are quite right, Gats does need to get his weight down before the world cup, Wyn could do with a few pounds less as well. Wink
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