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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

fantastic first 50 minutes not sure why we stepped off the gas so much afterwards...But this was a vital win and a tidy performance. Hopefully we can go on a little run of wins now

Certainly a game of two halves, the second of which we lost 10-17. Something to think about as better sides may well have overtaken us, but that's for another day

I was very pleased for the players to get the win, I think we all agree that th effort was certainly there. 

A law I'd like to see changed, if there is a side entry in a driving maul and the attacking side score, I'm not sure that a YC needs to be brought out. Issuing a YC comes over as being spiteful.
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Pack ran out of steam and bench didn't have the impact. Front row was strong but lost it when Francis went off. 
Back row worked hard.
Backs showed shape as well as we were on front foot.
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Chuffed to bits tbh 
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It's great to have a win and be actually  watching  forca change.
Great 50 mins,  and defence  to the fore thereafter.
Its definitely  the best performance  for a while,  and a lot to build on , credit to Tandy.
Edwards did well today, but still believe Costelow  will bring more offensively as a distributor, and defensively.
Key for Wales is to have Jac Morgan available.  Not only will be provide us with turnovers, but his presence  will enable quicker ball...which Tomos has to get away faster. The whole championship has underlined  what fast ball and aggressive  attacking play can do. Dwaine Peels is hopefully  watching and learning. 
Problem for Wales is in key areas,  such as tight head and second row there is inadequate  depth . Francis going off proved it in spades, and he's been missed. Carter had been a big improvement  on Beard , but not a lot in the SR locker.Other countries have greater strength in depth. 
Anyway..tonight , its great just great to celebrate  a win Thumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up

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A good win for Wales and I m happy, Italy lost their will to fight and never in game, but Wales studied well the match..
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I thought this was a game too far for this Italy team. Playing 5 6N games in 6 weeks was always going to be a challenge for some, particularly for teams with a lack of depth, ie Italy and Scotland with only 2 pro sides to select from.

Wales pack went well and Italy seemed to implode, conceding a series of soft tries. Wales backs worked hard in defense but rarely threatened in attack, despite a lot of front foot ball.

Dan Edwards had his best game for Wales, but was under little pressure behind a largely dominant pack. My concern at 10, 12, 13 is that Wales have only looked creative in mid-field in the first half against Scotland.

The back three also looks unbalanced. LRZ looks like a specialist wing, playing full back and the back three defense of the contested high ball is disorganized and panicky.

The pack played well, Carre has got himself fit enough to scrummage, defend and run for 50mins, Lake is starting to fulfill his promise and Francis locks the scrum. Jenkins and Carter look a good complimentary second row pairing. The back row are outstanding in defense, but for me lack balance. Morgan will add intelligence, but some pace and link play with the backs would add an attacking edge.

All in all Tandy did what I hoped. He has made Wales difficult to beat. The next stage is to add an attacking edge, because they wont win many games by just being brave in defense.

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Realistically all we could hope for was improvement & he delivered. Still don't understand the selections in the backs. LRZ is not a 15. We should use him the same way France use Bielle-Barrie. Top end pace chasing clever kicks into open space. Mee is far more of a 15 & should be given games by both Scarlets & Wales. 
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It was nice to be in Cardiff for that.

Fun atmosphere in the ground which really reacted to the players efforts.

I reckon that's our best 15 excluding Jac (or Sam but Edwards was excellent). Maybe Teddy Williams brings something. We haven't got the best out of a few players (in particular Grady).

But we've started improving so well done Tandy and coaches. 👏 👏 👏 
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Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

I thought this was a game too far for this Italy team. Playing 5 6N games in 6 weeks was always going to be a challenge for some, particularly for teams with a lack of depth, ie Italy and Scotland with only 2 pro sides to select from.

Wales pack went well and Italy seemed to implode, conceding a series of soft tries. Wales backs worked hard in defense but rarely threatened in attack, despite a lot of front foot ball.

Dan Edwards had his best game for Wales, but was under little pressure behind a largely dominant pack. My concern at 10, 12, 13 is that Wales have only looked creative in mid-field in the first half against Scotland.

The back three also looks unbalanced. LRZ looks like a specialist wing, playing full back and the back three defense of the contested high ball is disorganized and panicky.

The pack played well, Carre has got himself fit enough to scrummage, defend and run for 50mins, Lake is starting to fulfill his promise and Francis locks the scrum. Jenkins and Carter look a good complimentary second row pairing. The back row are outstanding in defense, but for me lack balance. Morgan will add intelligence, but some pace and link play with the backs would add an attacking edge.

All in all Tandy did what I hoped. He has made Wales difficult to beat. The next stage is to add an attacking edge, because they wont win many games by just being brave in defense.
I’m sorry saying Carre has got himself fit to play 50 minutes just proves he has not been professional. He had a good six nations but just think what a player he could be if really fit.
Mee was incredible in defence and Hawkins has his best game for Wales. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

I thought this was a game too far for this Italy team. Playing 5 6N games in 6 weeks was always going to be a challenge for some, particularly for teams with a lack of depth, ie Italy and Scotland with only 2 pro sides to select from.

Wales pack went well and Italy seemed to implode, conceding a series of soft tries. Wales backs worked hard in defense but rarely threatened in attack, despite a lot of front foot ball.

Dan Edwards had his best game for Wales, but was under little pressure behind a largely dominant pack. My concern at 10, 12, 13 is that Wales have only looked creative in mid-field in the first half against Scotland.

The back three also looks unbalanced. LRZ looks like a specialist wing, playing full back and the back three defense of the contested high ball is disorganized and panicky.

The pack played well, Carre has got himself fit enough to scrummage, defend and run for 50mins, Lake is starting to fulfill his promise and Francis locks the scrum. Jenkins and Carter look a good complimentary second row pairing. The back row are outstanding in defense, but for me lack balance. Morgan will add intelligence, but some pace and link play with the backs would add an attacking edge.

All in all Tandy did what I hoped. He has made Wales difficult to beat. The next stage is to add an attacking edge, because they wont win many games by just being brave in defense.

I’m sorry saying Carre has got himself fit to play 50 minutes just proves he has not been professional. He had a good six nations but just think what a player he could be if really fit.
Mee was incredible in defence and Hawkins has his best game for Wales. 


I agree Carre was not acting professionally, but he is now. My concern with the Wales mid field is that despite all the good ball the pack won in the first 50mins against Italy, the Wales backs never once looked like creating a try. All Wales scores came from forward domination and a major defensive error by Italy. Nothing was created by the backs.
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Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

I thought this was a game too far for this Italy team. Playing 5 6N games in 6 weeks was always going to be a challenge for some, particularly for teams with a lack of depth, ie Italy and Scotland with only 2 pro sides to select from.

Wales pack went well and Italy seemed to implode, conceding a series of soft tries. Wales backs worked hard in defense but rarely threatened in attack, despite a lot of front foot ball.

Dan Edwards had his best game for Wales, but was under little pressure behind a largely dominant pack. My concern at 10, 12, 13 is that Wales have only looked creative in mid-field in the first half against Scotland.

The back three also looks unbalanced. LRZ looks like a specialist wing, playing full back and the back three defense of the contested high ball is disorganized and panicky.

The pack played well, Carre has got himself fit enough to scrummage, defend and run for 50mins, Lake is starting to fulfill his promise and Francis locks the scrum. Jenkins and Carter look a good complimentary second row pairing. The back row are outstanding in defense, but for me lack balance. Morgan will add intelligence, but some pace and link play with the backs would add an attacking edge.

All in all Tandy did what I hoped. He has made Wales difficult to beat. The next stage is to add an attacking edge, because they wont win many games by just being brave in defense.

I’m sorry saying Carre has got himself fit to play 50 minutes just proves he has not been professional. He had a good six nations but just think what a player he could be if really fit.
Mee was incredible in defence and Hawkins has his best game for Wales. 


I agree Carre was not acting professionally, but he is now. My concern with the Wales mid field is that despite all the good ball the pack won in the first 50mins against Italy, the Wales backs never once looked like creating a try. All Wales scores came from forward domination and a major defensive error by Italy. Nothing was created by the backs.

Agree with Seagultaf, little creativity( excellent  summary  too ).
Maybe this is the next work on. Selecting people in the right position  would help. Mee to FB,  Zammit to wing, and Eddie to 12( although Hawkins  did OK). Faster ball from Tomos and Wales  play a higher  tempo game like the Scots. Without a plethora of big carriers, Wales need to play smarter exposing spaces in the wider without playing laterally , and consequently making it easy to defend. The majority  of the tries scored by Wales were by  forwards,  which  tells us a lot.
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I think Italy stepped up after 50 mins rather than Wales falling off - although you can understand a team that has only 2 wins in 3 years wanting to defend a 31 point lead rather than keep pushing to make it a 50 point lead.

My only real frustration (aside from lateral miss-passes killing momentum) was the several times we kicked ball away when there was a 3 man overlap....could have reached 50 points and put the pressure on England with some basic schoolboy level execution.

Can't argue with a solid win though.  
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Originally posted by Lincscarlet Lincscarlet wrote:

I think Italy stepped up after 50 mins rather than Wales falling off - although you can understand a team that has only 2 wins in 3 years wanting to defend a 31 point lead rather than keep pushing to make it a 50 point lead.

My only real frustration (aside from lateral miss-passes killing momentum) was the several times we kicked ball away when there was a 3 man overlap....could have reached 50 points and put the pressure on England with some basic schoolboy level execution.

Can't argue with a solid win though.  

Agreed, whilst Mann has had a v good tournament, he really needs to listen when he’s in the wide channels. Ironically we’ve been crying out for a grubbed kick through as a means of turning a defence, and exploiting the space behind a rush defence, however there’s a time and place, and that wasn’t it. 

France do it very well with Bielle-Biarrey. LRZ is very quick and we could use him for those opportunities.
U20’s messed up such an opportunity yesterday. Emmanuel saw the space but thumped the ball hard. Ball ran dead, Bowen was never going to get there. On a synthetic pitch like RP, the ball will kick on quickly unlike on grass. Ironically Emmanuel plays at CAP which has a synthetic pitch.
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Agreed, I think everyone on this forum has been questioning why we don't play LRZ on the wing...

Special mention to Ellis Mee though, defensively that was a very good performance.  Rumour is Ioane missed his flight back to Italy on Sunday because he was still in Mee's pocket.

Hopefully we get Mee at 15 and LRZ on the wing next time out (summer?) and James at 12
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