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    Posted: 21 November 2022 at 2:07pm
After the disappointment  of the car crash that was wales v Georgia, this evening our attention turns to cymru v USA this evening.
WhileI would describe myself primarily  as a rugby supporter, but I am also a football fan, and most important a Welshman.

Need to get away from the decisive  football or rugby mindset!
Wales a small country with limited resources and numbers..to be there at all , iis magic. 
Need to make the most of it now.
England making a blistering start v Iran, with Sako on fire, so this game for us is later is critical.
USA have an experienced team with many playing in Europe,nso it will be tough.
This however is collectively, is the best wales I have seen, despite  missing stars up front like Rush.


Finally I laugh with Yma O Hyd being hijacked LOL
Will be singing in it all the same.
 Cymru am Byth !



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Only saw the highlights but can't help thinking Page did a Pivac & got his selection wrong. Kieffer Moore would be starting every game for me - he attacks the ball, is good in the air & frightens defenders. They need to let him loose against Stones & Maguire thats for sure. 
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The hypocrisy from players to pundits complaining about human rights yet still taking the cash and going. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Only saw the highlights but can't help thinking Page did a Pivac & got his selection wrong. Kieffer Moore would be starting every game for me - he attacks the ball, is good in the air & frightens defenders. They need to let him loose against Stones & Maguire thats for sure. 

Spot on GPR!
It may appear bizarre to criticise a man who has got Wales to the first world cup for 64 years, BUT if |I have one issue with Page, is that he is quite 'conservative.'
I watch football as well as rugby, and it's clear, that Keifer Moore and Brennan Johnson, who are playing regular football, and playing well (in premier league), should have started
Wales shape was all over the place, harry Wilson, with little football struggling.
There has to be a major re-think before the next game, but all depends on the fitness of those who played against USA. 
Going again, in 4 days, in that heat seems mad.
For that reason alone, the tournament should never be played there, but it should never be played there anyway, for the reasons we all know.
FIFA are a disgrace really. Who knows what "back door" deals were done?
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No back door deals allowed in quatar...unles you can afford 19000 for a private box LOL
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Have to laugh, the official attendance for the Senegal v Netherlands match was 41,750.

Now not only is this funny because the stadium was never 3/4 full (according to the commentators) but the capacity of the stadium is 40,000. 

With reference to last night, we were like a rabbit in the headlights but came back well in the second half. Bale was poor by his standards & gave the ball away a few times. Would have liked to see Dan James running at the USA rightback after he was yellow carded. Moore changed the game when he came on & Ampadu was incredible.
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

The hypocrisy from players to pundits complaining about human rights yet still taking the cash and going. 

On a subject like human rights any decisions should have been taken out of the hands of the players, coaches & indeed the FA's. The government should have advised pre qualifying that unless huge changes were evident the team/s would not have been going. Same thing when it was held in Russia after the Crimea annexing. 
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Obviously it should never have been held there. But we are there now and must make the best of it. The issue of wearing rainbow hats and badges to promote equal rights and so on is being stamped on by qatar. The trouble is their authorities do not believe in equal rights and will never tolerate promoting it. I think the promoting of these rights is a bigger issue over there than the actual allowance of it. The more draconian they get the less likely it is imo they will ever get a world cup again in countries with such beliefs. In a weird way this is at least shining a light on these matters, such as the Iranian non anthem. That was a brave move and those players will suffer for it. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

The hypocrisy from players to pundits complaining about human rights yet still taking the cash and going. 

On a subject like human rights any decisions should have been taken out of the hands of the players, coaches & indeed the FA's. The government should have advised pre qualifying that unless huge changes were evident the team/s would not have been going. Same thing when it was held in Russia after the Crimea annexing. 

It's the pundits more than anything. Alex Scott is getting praised but a few months ago she was sunning it up in Dubai. 
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Remember when England were awarded the world cup ...it was illegal to be gay in England (but not in private schools)
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

The hypocrisy from players to pundits complaining about human rights yet still taking the cash and going. 

On a subject like human rights any decisions should have been taken out of the hands of the players, coaches & indeed the FA's. The government should have advised pre qualifying that unless huge changes were evident the team/s would not have been going. Same thing when it was held in Russia after the Crimea annexing. 

It's the pundits more than anything. Alex Scott is getting praised but a few months ago she was sunning it up in Dubai. 

The British  government  says one thing,  and does another. 
With the cutting back on Russian gas, (not a huge amount imported, but significant), we will now see Qatar  stepping up to fill the void.
It also has major investment interests right across the UK.. so has a huge influence.
The UK will not want not want rock the equilibrium  ATM.

We are deluding ourselves in the west if we think we can influence or change their ethnically and cultural practices. The reality is we will pay lip service  to what is morally right, but then turn a blind eye.

I remember  John Taylor, the former Wales and London Welsh flanker,going on a Lions tour and agonising about the ethics, before going. He eventually decided to go.,in the hope , apart from the rugby,to change a few minds on apartheid. 
Instead, the 'hunter became the hunted",as the afrikaans, in particular  objected strongly to any outside interference .

The most important thing is that we stop importing foreign oil / gas in the longer term..so we haven't  got to be beholden to places like Qatar.
Investment in green re-newable energy which is safe and better for the environment  is clearly the way forward. 
One such move was the Swansea bay  scheme turned down by the government.
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Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

The hypocrisy from players to pundits complaining about human rights yet still taking the cash and going. 

On a subject like human rights any decisions should have been taken out of the hands of the players, coaches & indeed the FA's. The government should have advised pre qualifying that unless huge changes were evident the team/s would not have been going. Same thing when it was held in Russia after the Crimea annexing. 

It's the pundits more than anything. Alex Scott is getting praised but a few months ago she was sunning it up in Dubai. 

The British  government  says one thing,  and does another. 
With the cutting back on Russian gas, (not a huge amount imported, but significant), we will now see Qatar  stepping up to fill the void.
It also has major investment interests right across the UK.. so has a huge influence.
The UK will not want not want rock the equilibrium  ATM.

We are deluding ourselves in the west if we think we can influence or change their ethnically and cultural practices. The reality is we will pay lip service  to what is morally right, but then turn a blind eye.

I remember  John Taylor, the former Wales and London Welsh flanker,going on a Lions tour and agonising about the ethics, before going. He eventually decided to go.,in the hope , apart from the rugby,to change a few minds on apartheid. 
Instead, the 'hunter became the hunted",as the afrikaans, in particular  objected strongly to any outside interference .

The most important thing is that we stop importing foreign oil / gas in the longer term..so we haven't  got to be beholden to places like Qatar.
Investment in green re-newable energy which is safe and better for the environment  is clearly the way forward. 
One such move was the Swansea bay  scheme turned down by the government.
John taylor had misgivings in 68 but refused to play south africa again on his return and didn't go in 74
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Thanks Ladram.(Tirdail boys to the fore again)
Great thing about the forum,is that there is someone who knows some detailed info about the topic your discussing.
You dont always have to ask the 'Oracle', but I imagine he would know anyway..LOLLOL ,
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Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Thanks Ladram.(Tirdail boys to the fore again)
Great thing about the forum,is that there is someone who knows some detailed info about the topic your discussing.
You dont always have to ask the 'Oracle', but I imagine he would know anyway..LOLLOL ,
Deciphering whether you’ve got the true facts or some random thinking is then the next stage in interpreting the Oracle’s pronouncements.
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Moving on will be interesting  to see what team Page picks for Iran.
A lot depends on how everyone is physically. 
I am hoping Joe Allen will  be able to start or play a part, even though he clearly won't be match fit.
Keifer Moore has to start,  and so should be Johnson, who has been playing well for Forest , not sure about James ATM
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