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    Posted: 08 September 2013 at 8:20pm
When a player kicks direct to touch from within his own 22 after one of his own team carried the ball back into the 22 and then passed it to him - where is the lineout formed?  Is it on the 22 line, or from where the player kicked the ball, or maybe from where his own player passed to him?




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The law is best described in the ELV notification here ....

This Law comes under the heading "NO GAIN IN GROUND" !

http://www.irb.com/mm/Document/LawsRegs/0/ELV4_5276.pdf

The lineout is taken from either where the ball goes into touch (if for some reason the ball goes backward off his boot) or parallel to the kicker when he kicked the ball whichever is closer to his own goal line !
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Thanks for that mate.  

Last Saturday, KP,s try from Shingler's throw in was disallowed because the officials said that Shingler was too far forward when he threw in.  But in reality, the assistant ref should have moved the mark for the throw in to a line parallel with where the kicker kicked to touch, which would have made the throw in legal.  The assistant was out by about 10m to 15m!!  Shingler knew he was behind the point where the kicker kicked the ball, so the move should have been allowed to continue.
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Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Thanks for that mate.  

Last Saturday, KP,s try from Shingler's throw in was disallowed because the officials said that Shingler was too far forward when he threw in.  But in reality, the assistant ref should have moved the mark for the throw in to a line parallel with where the kicker kicked to touch, which would have made the throw in legal.  The assistant was out by about 10m to 15m!!  Shingler knew he was behind the point where the kicker kicked the ball, so the move should have been allowed to continue.




Is there anything in the rules (similar to line calls in Tennis) whereby the Captain could challenge the Ref's decision and request the TMO look at it again?
If that were allowed then as mentioned above the "Try" could have been allowed.

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Originally posted by The Brain The Brain wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Thanks for that mate.  

Last Saturday, KP,s try from Shingler's throw in was disallowed because the officials said that Shingler was too far forward when he threw in.  But in reality, the assistant ref should have moved the mark for the throw in to a line parallel with where the kicker kicked to touch, which would have made the throw in legal.  The assistant was out by about 10m to 15m!!  Shingler knew he was behind the point where the kicker kicked the ball, so the move should have been allowed to continue.




Is there anything in the rules (similar to line calls in Tennis) whereby the Captain could challenge the Ref's decision and request the TMO look at it again?
If that were allowed then as mentioned above the "Try" could have been allowed.
it would have been a try...but then mccuskers try should not have been a try, so i look at it as one cancelling the other out.
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by The Brain The Brain wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Thanks for that mate.  

Last Saturday, KP,s try from Shingler's throw in was disallowed because the officials said that Shingler was too far forward when he threw in.  But in reality, the assistant ref should have moved the mark for the throw in to a line parallel with where the kicker kicked to touch, which would have made the throw in legal.  The assistant was out by about 10m to 15m!!  Shingler knew he was behind the point where the kicker kicked the ball, so the move should have been allowed to continue.




Is there anything in the rules (similar to line calls in Tennis) whereby the Captain could challenge the Ref's decision and request the TMO look at it again?
If that were allowed then as mentioned above the "Try" could have been allowed.
it would have been a try...but then mccuskers try should not have been a try, so i look at it as one cancelling the other out.
Indeed, but I don't really want this to turn into a whinge about the score on Saturday. In answer to Brain's question, I'm sure the captain could have suggested a chat with the TMO, seeing a try was up for grabs.  ironically, the McCusker 'try' did go to the TMO who got it wrong, so I don't know what to think really. Smile
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