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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am pretty sure that someone like Alun Wyn possesses the knowledge & professional skills to make the difference but he would make most of his colleagues pretty uncomfortable I guess. 


What professional skills does Alun Wyn jones posess to excel at a role in the WRU? He only retired 12 months ago.
he is finely atuned to pro rugby for  one , he will know how players  feel what they want/need and what  the regions concerns and needs are. what does the current ceo of the wru know about pro rugby? or pro sport in general tbh. in short he would be a far more sensible candidate for a senior role in the wru than most of those in place

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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am pretty sure that someone like Alun Wyn possesses the knowledge & professional skills to make the difference but he would make most of his colleagues pretty uncomfortable I guess. 


What professional skills does Alun Wyn jones posess to excel at a role in the WRU? He only retired 12 months ago.

My understanding is he has a law degree. That suggests some acumen to me which sitting alongside his undoubted knowledge of the rugby environment would give him an edge on Nigel Walker.  I am talking about diversity of skills to complement Abi Tierney. She needs a rugby person to advise her through the web of machinations within the WRU. I am in no way suggesting that he possesses the skills to become the WRU's legal adviser but he does seem to me to have the inside knowledge & respect required to deal with all sides of the argument. 

Exactly. I’d rather someone like that than someone who’s only there because they used to play for Wales. 
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This is why we'll forever be the village idtiots of rugby.

IRFU appoint a man as CEO with over a decade of experience at KPMG, and as an investment fund manager in Dublin finance.

We have fans saying that a guy who played for the Ospreys last year and is now selling bootleg rum should be high up on the WRU board.

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If you wanted someone from a rugby background then Andrew Fenby would be better suited, many years experience in the corporate world and has his own Rugby agency company.
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A link to the WRU Board membership 
It pains me to say it but on paper at least a reasonable range of business and rugby experience.
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It will never change because of the deep rooted small minded individuals we have in Welsh rugby. 
People whose first thought is what’s in it for me not what’s the best I can do for rugby.
The individuals that turn up week in week out to help their respective clubs by marking the lines cutting the grass running the finances of their clubs are the salt of the earth and we rely on these people otherwise the game would die. 
The ones that get to WRU level seem to forget where they came from and why they went into the job on the first place. 
The WRU is a joke and it’s going to take more a than a 5 year plan,  which will probably be ripped up in a year when the next much lauded  chief executive is put on place because the current one will have left exasperated. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

This is why we'll forever be the village idtiots of rugby.

IRFU appoint a man as CEO with over a decade of experience at KPMG, and as an investment fund manager in Dublin finance.

We have fans saying that a guy who played for the Ospreys last year and is now selling bootleg rum should be high up on the WRU board.

instead we got some woman who ran the pass post office into the  ground and has never worked in pro sport let alone  pro rugby in her life , great appointmentWink

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Announcement  tomorrow  from  WRU 
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Originally posted by thommo thommo wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am pretty sure that someone like Alun Wyn possesses the knowledge & professional skills to make the difference but he would make most of his colleagues pretty uncomfortable I guess. 


What professional skills does Alun Wyn jones posess to excel at a role in the WRU? He only retired 12 months ago.

My understanding is he has a law degree. That suggests some acumen to me which sitting alongside his undoubted knowledge of the rugby environment would give him an edge on Nigel Walker.  I am talking about diversity of skills to complement Abi Tierney. She needs a rugby person to advise her through the web of machinations within the WRU. I am in no way suggesting that he possesses the skills to become the WRU's legal adviser but he does seem to me to have the inside knowledge & respect required to deal with all sides of the argument. 
WRU has unfortunately been a breeding ground for cronyism and jobs for the boys. We've got to move on from that and display complete transparency. If the WRU is to succeed then the structure has to be fit for purpose.
 

did we scour the world for the best candidate too? was tierney the best available in the world?
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by thommo thommo wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am pretty sure that someone like Alun Wyn possesses the knowledge & professional skills to make the difference but he would make most of his colleagues pretty uncomfortable I guess. 


What professional skills does Alun Wyn jones posess to excel at a role in the WRU? He only retired 12 months ago.

My understanding is he has a law degree. That suggests some acumen to me which sitting alongside his undoubted knowledge of the rugby environment would give him an edge on Nigel Walker.  I am talking about diversity of skills to complement Abi Tierney. She needs a rugby person to advise her through the web of machinations within the WRU. I am in no way suggesting that he possesses the skills to become the WRU's legal adviser but he does seem to me to have the inside knowledge & respect required to deal with all sides of the argument. 
WRU has unfortunately been a breeding ground for cronyism and jobs for the boys. We've got to move on from that and display complete transparency. If the WRU is to succeed then the structure has to be fit for purpose.
 

did we scour the world for the best candidate too? was tierney the best available in the world?

I think that given the WRU's horrific cultural issues, it had to be a woman, if the candidates were close.
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Originally posted by Grammar School Boy Grammar School Boy wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by thommo thommo wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am pretty sure that someone like Alun Wyn possesses the knowledge & professional skills to make the difference but he would make most of his colleagues pretty uncomfortable I guess. 


What professional skills does Alun Wyn jones posess to excel at a role in the WRU? He only retired 12 months ago.

My understanding is he has a law degree. That suggests some acumen to me which sitting alongside his undoubted knowledge of the rugby environment would give him an edge on Nigel Walker.  I am talking about diversity of skills to complement Abi Tierney. She needs a rugby person to advise her through the web of machinations within the WRU. I am in no way suggesting that he possesses the skills to become the WRU's legal adviser but he does seem to me to have the inside knowledge & respect required to deal with all sides of the argument. 
WRU has unfortunately been a breeding ground for cronyism and jobs for the boys. We've got to move on from that and display complete transparency. If the WRU is to succeed then the structure has to be fit for purpose.
 

did we scour the world for the best candidate too? was tierney the best available in the world?

I think that given the WRU's horrific cultural issues, it had to be a woman, if the candidates were close.

Thats not what I asked at all


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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

This is why we'll forever be the village idtiots of rugby.

IRFU appoint a man as CEO with over a decade of experience at KPMG, and as an investment fund manager in Dublin finance.

We have fans saying that a guy who played for the Ospreys last year and is now selling bootleg rum should be high up on the WRU board.

 Did I suggest AWJ as CEO????? How much current day knowledge did the KPMG man have about professional rugby???? Don't you think he will have the advise and help on the rugby front from a rugby person??? David Humphries anyone??????

Any rugby board needs a diversity of skills to succeed. 
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Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Announcement  tomorrow  from  WRU 

Don't think we should get too excited. Announcement today will be the broad brush strategy - zero details. Probably, I hope I'm wrong, an arrangement of fancy words which we will all have heard before. The detailed 5 year strategy is being published in October. 

Quite why the 4 month gap I do not understand.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2024 at 8:18am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Announcement  tomorrow  from  WRU 


Don't think we should get too excited. Announcement today will be the broad brush strategy - zero details. Probably, I hope I'm wrong, an arrangement of fancy words which we will all have heard before. The detailed 5 year strategy is being published in October. 

Quite why the 4 month gap I do not understand.



Agree there. Today will be an 'overarching strategy' announcement....limited detail and direction I suspect.

Key talk points around finance, number of regions, infrastructure etc will be kicked down the road until later in the year it seems.

Hope to be wrong of course.

As a personal note, Welsh rugby is a hot mess, we all know that. It actually needs fearless leadership right now, I'd even accept some mistakes along the way so long as they were made with conviction and promptly.

What we seem to have done is changed the captain and senior crew, outsourced the route map and navigation at a time of severe financial hardship, and blurred the timelines of our ETD and ETA.
(Being childish I can only see Captain Pugwash in my head when I wrote that).

Not promising at all.



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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

This is why we'll forever be the village idtiots of rugby.

IRFU appoint a man as CEO with over a decade of experience at KPMG, and as an investment fund manager in Dublin finance.

We have fans saying that a guy who played for the Ospreys last year and is now selling bootleg rum should be high up on the WRU board.


You seem to worship at the bean counter fountain. We have our very own member of the counter brigade who has an illustrious CV as top man at PWC. What does he know about rugby - probably as much as the KPMG man. 

As far as I can make out the only member of the Welsh board with any recent experience of Men's professional rugby is Jamie Roberts who is NED which is very much part time with limited day to day involvement. 

I am not saying these people do not bring things to the party which are badly needed but to get Welsh rugby back on track to being in any way competitive we need rugby people who understand the environment in which we are struggling. 
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

This is why we'll forever be the village idtiots of rugby.

IRFU appoint a man as CEO with over a decade of experience at KPMG, and as an investment fund manager in Dublin finance.

We have fans saying that a guy who played for the Ospreys last year and is now selling bootleg rum should be high up on the WRU board.




In a board of 12 having someone in touch with the *'dressing room' isn't a bad thing, I guess that's why Jamie Roberts is there. He's also played in the English, French, SA and other infrastructures so should offer some good insight. Cardiff boy too--so you'll relate to that :)

*By this I mean in recent touch, not 30 years ago.

AWJ's rum/coffee is pish by the way, as is Hibbard's Mortal Bunny rum ( albeit seems to be commercially doing well). Aviation gin it is not.

These are the new modern rugby players investment version which was previously part racehorse ownership (or flipping Escort Mk1 an 2 rally car build outs in my case).


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