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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

But very few people/corporate clients would pay that sort of money if the end product (on the field of play) wasn’t as successful as it’s been since the mid noughties.  That product is nurtured by the regions at great cost to the regions involved.
If the national team were regularly playing out for the wooden spoon then fewer people would want to buy match tickets let alone hospitality packages running into the thousands.

I agree with GPR above. The “product” isn’t really the rugby, it’s the stadium experience and the price tag of the hotel. That’s client entertainment. It’s really depressing but it is the way of the world. In a previous job, I had to “entertain” three different clients three nights in a row in a box at the O2 arena watching U2, a band I do not like and neither did the clients - but it secured their biz for another three years so the agency was happy to pay the tens of thousands it cost upfront. 

However, I DO agree with your point generally that Welsh rugby is so top down and reliant on success of the national team that IMO we’re only ever two successive 5th place six nations campaigns away from a terminal decline. 

If/when that happens the money will dry up and there will be 5x versions of Cory Hills going to Jap, Eng, France in a vicious cycle for both the regions and national team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gaffer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2021 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

But very few people/corporate clients would pay that sort of money if the end product (on the field of play) wasn’t as successful as it’s been since the mid noughties.  That product is nurtured by the regions at great cost to the regions involved.
If the national team were regularly playing out for the wooden spoon then fewer people would want to buy match tickets let alone hospitality packages running into the thousands.

I agree with GPR above. The “product” isn’t really the rugby, it’s the stadium experience and the price tag of the hotel. That’s client entertainment. It’s really depressing but it is the way of the world. In a previous job, I had to “entertain” three different clients three nights in a row in a box at the O2 arena watching U2, a band I do not like and neither did the clients - but it secured their biz for another three years so the agency was happy to pay the tens of thousands it cost upfront. 

However, I DO agree with your point generally that Welsh rugby is so top down and reliant on success of the national team that IMO we’re only ever two successive 5th place six nations campaigns away from a terminal decline. 

If/when that happens the money will dry up and there will be 5x versions of Cory Hills going to Jap, Eng, France in a vicious cycle for both the regions and national team.


Yes, the corporate clients will buy in whatever the 'product'. How the hospitality money is utilised by the WRU is the big question. Will it be filtered back to support the professional game or re-invested in the WRU's, "diverse commercial portfolio"?  I can imagine a scenario where the commercial success of the WRU as a business no longer requires them to have anything to do with rugby. In fact their accountants are probably telling them that it makes too many 'losses'  and they should ditch it in favour of a 'Golden Era 1970's Theme Park' a la Disney World, complete with Gareth Edwards, Barry John, Phil Bennett lookalikes. Sorry, I'm rambling, but you get the point..,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2021 at 12:31pm
Didn't want to start a new thread but there will be full capacity at the Principality Stadium for the Autumn internationals. 
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Welsh Rugby Union: Bank debt rises to £22.9m despite £400,000 profit for financial year



Please control responses when you read 'The WRU is putting a lot of faith in the £46.2m hotel development which the governing body says is designed to create long-term financial returns for Welsh rugby. Wink'
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