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The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 
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Pasting against a struggling side. Sad days for the rfc
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Is there any point in the league ?it's not doing what it is designed for ,it it a platform for people with big egos and even bigger wallets to have their day in the limelight.
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Super sad about this.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Is there any point in the league ?it's not doing what it is designed for ,it it a platform for people with big egos and even bigger wallets to have their day in the limelight.
tnh not sure bridgend fall into that category they been struggling to
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Is there any point in the league ?it's not doing what it is designed for ,it it a platform for people with big egos and even bigger wallets to have their day in the limelight.
tnh not sure bridgend fall into that category they been struggling to
i was thinking more along the lines of your merthyrs.
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That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.
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Be a sad day if they get relegated but i think it’s ring fenced this year
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 

How much do the Scarlets invest in the RFC ?. 

Do they invest any money in Llandovery and Carmarthen ?.
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Yes Another sad night for RFC last night Scarlets should be supplying them with players last night

I agree that league is not good enough when you have teams like Merthyr and Cardiff rumoured to be top spenders in the league no chance for the rest although Cardiff lost to newport last night

Llandovery v Quins this afternoon should be good game

Sorry state of the game in wales 
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
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Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh
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Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 

How much do the Scarlets invest in the RFC ?. 

Do they invest any money in Llandovery and Carmarthen ?.
The Scarlets actually owns the Rfc ( unlike any other Welsh region) so it makes the RFC unique. Not particularly liked ( to various degrees) , by the other Premiership clubs because of this. The Scarlets seems to want the RFC to succeed but fails to fund the older hard nosed semi pros needed to create success. The RFC is often defeated up front and in the loose by other clubs and of course they lose a lot. They also don’t have many fans as who wants to pay to watch losing rugby week in and week out. That then leads to lack of bar/ gate income and lack of sponsorship income. It’s pretty obvious really! 

On the other hand the Scarlets want to use the RFC to control and develop players ( although this seems to have lessened) which is great BUT if they are continuing to underinvest in eg 3-4 forwards/ ball carriers/stealers the plan falls apart. 

The region is also very sensitive to keeping the Drovers and Quins happy when frankly they are long established businesses in Towns with club houses and open for daily business. The RFC is based in a Stadium just for the few hours of the game. The RFC should get better Scarlets allocation but don’t and won’t! 

So overall it’s a glass half full or half empty scenario depending on your views and just unsatisfactory. The future is with the Scarlets and I feel sorry for the loyal players who want success but don’t have the fire power to succeed. I would think that young Scarlets talent would thrive more if they had a competitive platform to win and this would accelerate their development, as opposed to being battered and hammered most weeks 
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Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
and they have age groups to feed players into the first team. Llamdovery well off club with that caravan site. Having a losing rfc teAm is not good for them or the region imo.  I go a few times a year it’s always a good day with a knowledgable crowd and you often get to see and talk to ex stars of yesteryear.  The whole thing is more personal than regional rugby

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