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    Posted: 23 February 2021 at 4:43am
15 Terry Price
14 Shane Williams (Gerald Davies)
13 Jon Davies
12 Ray Gravelle (Scott Williams)
11 Ieuan Evans
10 Phil Bennett (Jonathan Davies, Barry John, Stephen Jones)
9 Mike Phillips (Dwayne Peel, Johnny Griffiths)
8 Scott Quinnell
7 James Davies
6 Dafydd Jones
5 Derek Quinnell
4 Delme Thomas
3 Laurence Delaney (Samson Lee)
2 Ken Owens
1 Wyn Jones

Missed by less than a mile:
RH Williams - born in Cwmllynfell on border with Carms
Gareth Edwards - born in Gwaun-Cau-Gurwen on border with Carms

Who have I missed?
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Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

15 Terry Price
14 Shane Williams (Gerald Davies)
13 Jon Davies
12 Ray Gravelle (Scott Williams)
11 Ieuan Evans
10 Phil Bennett (Jonathan Davies, Barry John, Stephen Jones)
9 Mike Phillips (Dwayne Peel, Johnny Griffiths)
8 Scott Quinnell
7 James Davies
6 Dafydd Jones
5 Derek Quinnell
4 Delme Thomas
3 Laurence Delaney (Samson Lee)
2 Ken Owens
1 Wyn Jones

Missed by less than a mile:
RH Williams - born in Cwmllynfell on border with Carms
Gareth Edwards - born in Gwaun-Cau-Gurwen on border with Carms

Who have I missed?

Well,  I think you may have missed John Davies at 3 (tight-head prop). His Wikipedia entry is confusing and contradictory, though - in one place he's listed as having been born in Carmarthen, and in another it's Cardigan! Did mam go to give birth at Glangwili? Perhaps someone on here knows the true answer!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ScarletBear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2021 at 5:12am
I thought he was a Pembs boy, just to add to the confusion.
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Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

I thought he was a Pembs boy, just to add to the confusion.

Just found this:

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Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

I thought he was a Pembs boy, just to add to the confusion.

Just found this:


Tells us where he is now, but not where he was born.

I was baffled by the contradictions in Wikipedia, TBH.
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i think john was a crymych boy so would think glangwili .
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John's old man and mine enjoyed a pint on market day...
Family farm is in Boncath...he's a Pembs lad through and through.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2021 at 12:40pm
I'd have Josh Turnbull on the bench....born in H'West but he's a pucker Emlyn boy.

I can remember him turning up at the club as a scrawny 13 year old, never played rugby...we put him at full back...might have got that one wrong.

Gareth Davies in the hunt for the 9 shirt maybe...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2021 at 12:50pm
Rhys Priestland - tough love for the 10 shirt though.
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carwyn davies llangadog,terrific finisher went tragically too young .
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

carwyn davies llangadog,terrific finisher went tragically too young .
 
great player one of my favourites growing up. simon and nigel davies in the mix for the centre spots great pairing
 
where was barry Llewellyn from?
 


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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

carwyn davies llangadog,terrific finisher went tragically too young .

Yes-safe to say,with less fixtures etc his record for tries scored in a season will stand forever.
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Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

15 Terry Price
14 Shane Williams (Gerald Davies)
13 Jon Davies
12 Ray Gravelle (Scott Williams)
11 Ieuan Evans
10 Phil Bennett (Jonathan Davies, Barry John, Stephen Jones)
9 Mike Phillips (Dwayne Peel, Johnny Griffiths)
8 Scott Quinnell
7 James Davies
6 Dafydd Jones
5 Derek Quinnell
4 Delme Thomas
3 Laurence Delaney (Samson Lee)
2 Ken Owens
1 Wyn Jones

Missed by less than a mile:
RH Williams - born in Cwmllynfell on border with Carms
Gareth Edwards - born in Gwaun-Cau-Gurwen on border with Carms

Who have I missed?

What a marvellous thread and what a fantastic team...
I wont pretend to know how great players were from the distant past, though I heard endless tales of the great albert jenkins so he may be worth a nod. 

If we are selecting based on how well they played for llanelli then I would go with johnny griff at 9, he was a fantastic scrum half for us taking us to 3 cup finals , match winning try in 85, then the season of 88 he was my best player in the best scarlets team I ever saw. He also came back in the 90s too. Mark douglas before him too a class player not sure where he was from.

Id be tempted to put jiffy in at 15 can we really afford to do without his genius?

Props hookers, iestyn thomas, ricky evans dai fox mucbryde ,lamerton and co Not sure where they were all from mind. Back row Id have to throw in a few other names, emyr tarw lewis, perego, lyn jones etc Phil may deserves a mention too, proper ledge over 500 games Clap

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Ricky Evans was a Cardi.   Iestyn Thomas was  Gwent somewhere.  Lamerton was  Beddau near Pontypridd if i remember correctly.  Gary Pearce  and  Roy Bergiers worth a mention.  DK Jones  too. 
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:


Id be tempted to put jiffy in at 15 can we really afford to do without his genius?


He can commentate! Numbers!
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Originally posted by LLANDRE LLANDRE wrote:

Ricky Evans was a Cardi.   Iestyn Thomas was  Gwent somewhere.  Lamerton was  Beddau near Pontypridd if i remember correctly.  Gary Pearce  and  Roy Bergiers worth a mention.  DK Jones  too. 

Yes a number of names were not Carms boys as you stated. Gary Pearce was Llansteffan way I think.

I forgot Josh Adams of course.

Love t have included the great Gareth Edwards, but just misses. Unlucky for him. Gwaun-cau-gerwen literally rests up against Carms.

I think we have the greatest rugby county in Wales and one of the best in the world. Truly. 
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