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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mrfwon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2023 at 4:29pm
The Welsh government can set the speed limits to whatever they like! The crucial bit, is how effective it's going to be going forwards, which ultimately comes down to how well it's going to be policed.

Unfortunately, there are not enough police on our roads to be able to police this effectively, and whilst this change has been brought in, in an attempt to reduce accidents and risk to live, it's down to us individuals to do the right thing and abide by it. 

Unfortunately, once again, as many have already mentioned, people do whatever they like on the roads these days, and again, there aren't currently enough police on our roads to tackle the existing problems on our roads, let along trying to enforce by catching drivers speeding above 20mph.

Inner cities, towns, around schools and area's where streets are narrow, parking is an issue etc etc, 20mph is definitely going to help for sure, but on the outskirts of cities, towns and even villages where residential areas are at minimum, I just don't get it.

Add in the poor attempt at implementing this with poor signage, or not even updating existing signage, it's just smacks extremely poor planning.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Out of curio how do 40 mph  roafs compare to 30 mph injury wise? ? If they are lower Maybe we should increase not reduce soeed! There are a lot more (well there were a lot more) 30 mph roads than 20 mph roads than 30 mph so it stands to reason there will be more fatalities on these roads. I dare say there are less pedestrians killed and injured on motor ways then there are on 20 mph and 30 mph roads? See how easy it is to bend  stats to your view point

firefighters and other emergency workers castguard paramedics etc are saying theyre arriving late to their work places or fire stations as a result of the 20 mph to get to work in the 1st place.....fires dont wait for speed cameras....Yet another of the infinite negative scenarios not considered by the welsh govt
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The Welsh government have passed a law saying that they can impose tolls and ULEZ areas in Wales although labour says it has no intention to do so Drakeford also said that Elvis is alive and lives in Porthcawl and the tooth fairy is to be taxed on her earnings.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

The Welsh government have passed a law saying that they can impose tolls and ULEZ areas in Wales although labour says it has no intention to do so Drakeford also said that Elvis is alive and lives in Porthcawl and the tooth fairy is to be taxed on her earnings.

welsh labour are destroying porthcawl too
the elvis festival ended (The biggest 1 in the world) because welsh labour are destroying coney beach thus destroying the biggest caravan park in europe at trekko bay (theyre building a load of flats there apparently)

Ive no idea why were all banging on abut the tories in london when its welsh labour that is destroying wales 


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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I find myself driving slower overall. Not just on the 20mph zone but because I’m too slow to process multiple speed limits around my home so sort of pick the lowest one and stick to it 😊

1 mile right out of my drive it’s 30-60-40-20-40-60.

1 mile left it’s 30-60-20-60-20-40-60

I can really identify with that feeling. There seems to be too much variation of speed limits in short distances . Hopefully this will all be looked at over the next year 🙏



Too late .. I was nabbed for doing 28 in a 20 a couple of weeks ago...it's a fair cop by the interpretation ( 26 and above is finable)...on reflection though, I didn't think in my 40+ years of driving I'd ever get done for speeding by doing 28 !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2024 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I find myself driving slower overall. Not just on the 20mph zone but because I’m too slow to process multiple speed limits around my home so sort of pick the lowest one and stick to it 😊

1 mile right out of my drive it’s 30-60-40-20-40-60.

1 mile left it’s 30-60-20-60-20-40-60

I can really identify with that feeling. There seems to be too much variation of speed limits in short distances . Hopefully this will all be looked at over the next year 🙏



Too late .. I was nabbed for doing 28 in a 20 a couple of weeks ago...it's a fair cop by the interpretation ( 26 and above is finable)...on reflection though, I didn't think in my 40+ years of driving I'd ever get done for speeding by doing 28 !
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

 
Too late .. I was nabbed for doing 28 in a 20 a couple of weeks ago...it's a fair cop by the interpretation ( 26 and above is finable)...on reflection though, I didn't think in my 40+ years of driving I'd ever get done for speeding by doing 28 !

Welcome to the club. I got caught doing 32 in a 20 by what I now know to be the most prolific 20mph camera in Wales, Swansea Road in Merthyr. After catching more than 8,000 in the first 10 months I believe someone has now taken a disc cutter to it. Up to 31mph there is a good chance of getting a speed awareness course. I gratefully accepted 3 points and a £100 fine. I'd have taken a custodial sentance rather than face Scarletrover.   
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Originally posted by Bryn@man Bryn@man wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

 
Too late .. I was nabbed for doing 28 in a 20 a couple of weeks ago...it's a fair cop by the interpretation ( 26 and above is finable)...on reflection though, I didn't think in my 40+ years of driving I'd ever get done for speeding by doing 28 !


Welcome to the club. I got caught doing 32 in a 20 by what I now know to be the most prolific 20mph camera in Wales, Swansea Road in Merthyr. After catching more than 8,000 in the first 10 months I believe someone has now taken a disc cutter to it. Up to 31mph there is a good chance of getting a speed awareness course. I gratefully accepted 3 points and a £100 fine. I'd have taken a custodial sentance rather than face Scarletrover.   




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Sorry to hear about the fines however there's nearly always an upside.
Someone may be spared a pedestrian accident or worse by being hit by a road vehicle going at a slower speed than they would have been before the 20 mph came in.  From my own observation and driving habits, traffic in 20 mph zones are doing 23 to 24 mph  whereas before the changes were doing 34 to 35 mph on those same stretches of road.  
I was a sceptic but am now a convert.  I understand the accident stats show a decrease in accidents of over 25% which will hopefully feed through to driving insurance rates for Welsh residents.
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

From my own observation and driving habits, traffic in 20 mph zones are doing 23 to 24 mph  whereas before the changes were doing 34 to 35 mph on those same stretches of road.  
I was a sceptic but am now a convert.

Totally agree.

Some illogical speed limit transitions need reviewing but on the whole it is working well.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Bryn@man Bryn@man wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

 
Too late .. I was nabbed for doing 28 in a 20 a couple of weeks ago...it's a fair cop by the interpretation ( 26 and above is finable)...on reflection though, I didn't think in my 40+ years of driving I'd ever get done for speeding by doing 28 !


Welcome to the club. I got caught doing 32 in a 20 by what I now know to be the most prolific 20mph camera in Wales, Swansea Road in Merthyr. After catching more than 8,000 in the first 10 months I believe someone has now taken a disc cutter to it. Up to 31mph there is a good chance of getting a speed awareness course. I gratefully accepted 3 points and a £100 fine. I'd have taken a custodial sentance rather than face Scarletrover.   


I got Scarletrover as my trainer few years back . I was at Dorian’s moralising mercy for several hours. The bugger 😂 Useful course mind. 
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