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Topic: music, queen and Pablo Honey
Posted By: dimcyril
Subject: music, queen and Pablo Honey
Date Posted: 13 December 2011 at 8:31pm
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Hello Kid A. I love a pontificate and a chat / squabble about music. I was wondering what was the reason for you having such strong opinions about queen? I was also wondering what sort of music you enjoy listening to? |
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Posted By: SMELLYMIKE
Date Posted: 13 December 2011 at 8:46pm
 ......Sorry to hijack this thread , but havent done it in a while and i wasnt sure if id lost my touch or not------------- I am only responsible for what I say. Not for what you understand |
dimcyril wrote:Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 13 December 2011 at 9:28pm
Alright Cyril. I also love a chat, especially about music, film, etc I tend to have strong opinions on things that are overrated and underrated. Especially things that are overrated that I can't get away from. Queen, whilst being an important rock band with a pretty good frontman, are just that. Secondly, their songs are largely "fun". Whilst I'm a big fan of being happy, especially on Wednesdays and Saturdays, I tend to want music to be a bit cleverer than what Queen have to offer. (All they really are is the thinking man's Darkness) Now granted, I'm no expert on the band because, like you've alluded to, I have heard mostly their more well known numbers. But I would have though that this little taster would represent the majority of their music no? Lastly, as for what music I'm into, well these days I'm open to listening to most types of music, especially liking a bit of post rock, modern classical and the odd bit of rock. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 13 December 2011 at 9:37pm
I like the Beatles. They did quite a few albums. |
Posted By: Sam Cheese
Date Posted: 13 December 2011 at 10:02pm
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------------- You will know the vengeance of the Lord Humungus! I promise you... nobody... nobody... gets out of here alive! |
Posted By: scarletman
Date Posted: 13 December 2011 at 10:55pm
Blydi hell mun .... You must spend hours picking the splinters out, from all that fence sitting !   ------------- |
Posted By: Gary Coleman
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:17pm
Yeah, but they're worse than Queen.
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:27pm
At what? It takes all sorts. The Beatles definitely did alot of rubbish. I do like mainstream stuff by the way. I don't know where this notion of me only liking music nobody has heard of comes from Mr SmellyMike.... The Cure have done 13 studio albums by the way. Death Cab for Cutie have released 7 albums. Sigur Ros have done 5. Beth Orton's done 5. Nick Cave has released 14. There's some of my favourite "well known" artists ^ right there Queen are not fit to lace their boots ;) |
Posted By: PearlJam
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:51pm
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Queen are just average. They never actually made a good album either did they? They were a singles band, much like the old soul singers of the 60s, Sam Cooke, Ben E. King - writing catchy 'hits' that were fun and appealed to the record buying masses, but if you go behind that there was very little substance.
They sounded great, very polished and Freddy had a great voice and delivery. But they were an arena rock band in an era of arena rock. Overblown, over the top show-men (well, Mercury was anyway).
Being 'big' and 'popular' never made anyone a good band. Pavement, The Modern lovers, Guided by Voices - amazing music, not necessarily popular. Queen average music, incredibly and inexplicbly popular. ------------- If you're losing your soul and you know it, then you've still got a soul left to lose. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:01pm
spot on Jedward were voted more popular than the Beatles in a recent poll. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:29pm
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If queen were so bad, how does their music still sell 40 years after they were formed and 20 years after the death of Freddie Mercury... My 7 year old daughter knows the words to we are the champions and we will rock you. that had nothing to do with me, but she picked them up on the radio... The Cure I can agree with, but to just say Queen are over-rated and over popular is a joke. they have influenced many big acts, current and passed.... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:34pm
So anything that sells = good? Mr Blobby got to UK number one you know.
Being influential doesn't make it good. Otherwise we'd all be raving about Gregorian chants made by Monks centuries ago. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:38pm
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blobby was a one hit wonder and a novelty.. so what you are saying is that the millions of albums they sold are bad and everyone else is wrong apart from you????? ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:39pm
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Queen's albums up to and including "Jazz" ('79?) were full of hidden gems to be fair, their second is prog-rock tour de force:) After that they went artistically questionable but remained a cracking live band, though on a downward slide until Live Aid when like them or not they fully realised the idea of the "global jukebox", and proceeded to throw the hits out thus establishing a return to popularity. I find it interesting they never really explained away their decision to play Sun City at the height of apartheid, but I suppose the money was good;) "Live Killers" is a good album to own if you only want the one. I won't go into the stuff I like, far too eclectic. I'm listening to the Grateful Dead at the moment, finger on the pulse of the nation me! |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:55pm
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Queen II is without doubt a masterpiece, the hidden gem of their collection... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:57pm
It really is quite astonishing how you actually came to form that point of view. And then wrote it down. |
Posted By: PearlJam
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:57pm
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Courtesy of m1nd3d - check this out:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/12-extremely-disappointing-facts-about-popular-mus" rel="nofollow - http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/12-extremely-disappointing-facts-about-popular-mus
Again, what sells doesn't mean it's any good. In fact, popular music is for idiots. There I've said it.
------------- If you're losing your soul and you know it, then you've still got a soul left to lose. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:59pm
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but queen weren't popular they were rock...
they had 4 number ones in their complete career. ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 3:03pm
It's pop music. |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 3:10pm
Your catching OAM itus....
  ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 3:17pm
| http://www.scarletfever.org/forum/queenthe-band_topic28044_post493242.html?KW=queen#493242" rel="nofollow - http://www.scarletfever.org/forum/queenthe-band_topic28044_post493242.html?KW=queen#493242 |
Posted By: PearlJam
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:14pm
One thing: I like the way that thread ended with Llandre announcing that "you can't beat the The Tepot Piws". That might be true, I'm not sure though.
Another thing: Sal mentioned Queen about 20 times in one post, which was fantastic. Queen, Queen, Queen etc.
------------- If you're losing your soul and you know it, then you've still got a soul left to lose. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:22pm
There are some classic posts in that thread. Llandre's effort is outstanding. I like Keithd's post about seeing queen in brangwyn hall. Is this Sal's one?
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Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:22pm
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Said it before and will say it again. If Queen are on the radio/juke box etc etc then it doesnt bother me and i dont mind a couple of their songs but i dont own any of their stuff simply because they dont bother me. Music should be something that makes you happy when you listen to it, for me Queen dont make me feel anything (will quite happily sing along to their music in Limerick though should the situation arise). I will however say that Brian May is the most over rated guitar player/musician to have ever walked the planet.
------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:41pm
you see that is an opinion of which you are entitled but i do not agree with. in terms of songwriting and musicianship there are few bands as good as Queen in my opinion. looking at some of the bands you like, i'm not surprised that you don't like Queen. you seem to like the 'darker' side of things. [hope you dont like coldplay though] queen are alot more bombastic and 'showy' than your taste .early Queen is especially brilliant imo. i like them being a bit more prog rock, like they were on their early albums queen 2, Sheer heart attack, night at the opera. other bands who i consider especially superb are Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Thin Lizzy, The Who, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Ursine Princes [joke!, that's my band]
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Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:45pm
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Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 5:07pm
brian may is a superb guitarist and songwriter in my opinion. is he the best technically? probably not. but that is irrelevant. there are probably loads of session players who are technically better than many 'name' guitarists. i love george harrison's playing but i acknowledge that someone like steve vai is much 'better' than him in technical terms. however, in my opinion steve vai cant touch george when it comes to the feel of the music and the choice of notes, no matter how fast he can play.
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 5:45pm
I don't really consider "showy" to have a bearing on music. It's either good music or otherwise. I quite like The Flaming Lips. They're quite "showy" Arcade Fire are probably my favourite band, they put on a damn good show. No doubt they are influenced by Queen too! To be frank, I just think it's a question of taste. I simply don't like Queen's music. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 5:52pm
It really is pop music. That doesn't make it bad. Half of the stuff I listen to is probably pop music too. It's radio friendly, catchy, mainstream pop. [The singles are anyway, I haven't felt compelled to dive in to Queen any further] Seaside rendezvous might be music hall, but music hall was the pop of it's day wasn't it. I can't see any difference between The Darkness and Queen. They are essentially the same band. I find it dated, bland, novelty-ridden and cringeworthy myself, but these different opinions make world go round. |
Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 5:55pm
Agreed, but I also like to think that Queen influenced every band that I think are completely awful. Muse, The Darkness, The Feeling, Coldplay, Keane, Razorlight. ^^ Tell you what, the last 10 years hasn't been so kind on the British music scene.
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Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:14pm
| Music hall may have been the pop of its day, but it certainly wasn't the pop of 1975. Queen influence coldplay? How come? Coldplay are navel gazers. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:23pm
But it's all pop music. Queen are in the same bracket as any pop music today: very safe, novelty driven, radio friendly, unchallenging pop music. That type of music certainly has a place. That place just isn't anywhere near my ears.
Coldplay aren't exactly a million miles away from Muse are they? I liked Coldplay's first couple of albums (I don't think M1nd3d will speak to me again). But they are a completely different band now. |
Posted By: SMELLYMIKE
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:31pm
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Queen are simply the best entertainers ever in music.....guttec that i never saw them.....There are not many bands i woul get out of bed to see, but Alabhama 3 are superb ...poer of the blood is a brillinat iconic song ------------- I am only responsible for what I say. Not for what you understand |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:39pm
Ive said it before and as usual, i will repeat myself, for me i dont give a stuff about whats trendy, in influential, essential listening etc, etc. As long as any type of music makes me smile and feel pretty good, then that's good enough for me. Ive posted all the groups ive seen, the music i love etc and even now i will still buy, yep buy, not download, again i don't conform because everyone else does it, CD's to enjoy listening to, driving 1600 miles a month. Enjoy your trips guys and i will enjoy mine, surely thats what music is all about, ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:42pm
.------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:46pm
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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 9:15pm
You Sir, are a Gent,  ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 14 December 2011 at 10:01pm
There's nothing wrong with a bit of Rush, YYZ is fantastic
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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 8:06am
So i am forgiven then my learned friend,,
 ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 8:27am
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Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 8:32am
| i really dont like Coldplay. stupid name, whiney music, dreary delusions about saving the world. as liam gallagher rightly said 'they are just a bunch of k*** head students,' |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:12am
You've completely lost me now. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:24am
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they had 4.. bohemian rhapsody twice.... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:33am
| Oh he was replying to you. sorry. |
Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:39am
I've written it somewhere previously, but last month Chris Martin said that his band had to settle on being a "sh!t radiohead". Artists should never compare themselves, especially to acts that are 50 times better than them. Reminds of that time when Matt Bellamy of Muse was comparing his band to Rage Against The Machine.
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Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:42am
Forgiven implies you've done something wrong
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:53am
| Aren't they in it for the money? I don't go for that "I want to express myself in music" crap. |
Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 10:51am
ok. as long as you weren't going list queen + 5ive or some other legend destroying rubbish that they have done in the last 15 or so years.
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 10:56am
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Queen fans: What is their best ever lyric? |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:00am
Who wants to live forever,,,
------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:11am
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The white queen walks And the night grows pale Stars of lovingness in her hair ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:15am
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Define best lyrics. Everyone listens to a song and has their own interpretation. I listen to "Days of our lives" and think of my youth. I listen to 'Lullably' and think of spiders. I know I may wind you and others up about music choice but each to their own, that goes for most things in life. You've put links on here and I've listened and thought the music is good. With most people they only get into music they hear in the mainstream, clubs, Tv, radio etc. I'd say you have to be introduced as it were to different music or be open minded and look for it. It's only when kids get into their teens their music choices may change. Primary school ages they just want the Wanted, One direction and songs they can sing along too and dance too basically. Despite this my daughter is really excited that she's having a guitar for xmas and lessons in school. Not sure most of these teeny bopper groups know what a chord is!
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:27am
Whatever you want it to mean. Normally a clever, well written, intelligent line or 2 that makes you sit up and take note or defines the song. Lyrics aren't everything. But I can't think of a Queen lyric that makes me take note. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:36am
Yes, because Peter Gabriel wasn't expressing himself when he wrote "Biko", purely money motivated and not expressing himself. Radiohead don't go off on tangents as they're money motivated, multi-millionaires Pink Floyd reformed after years of rancour for Live 8 as they were in it for the money? Or did I miss the fact they donated every royalty from increased sales of their best of after their performance (as did The Who)? Springsteen to this day still donates to strike funds (as he did for our miners in the 80's) and his album "The Rising" wasn't about his outpourings post 9/11 at all? Even as a millionaire he wrote one of the most damning views of his own county's treatment of Vietnam Veterans ("Born In The USA", not quite the yank anthem people think it is). And that's just the top end of wedge earners, right to the very end Joe Strummer was still doing low key benefit gigs and releasing eclectic albums, the Hillsborough Justice tour has just done great business feat Mick Jones/Ian Brown and others, which brings me onto Ian Brown! I'm not a fan, but his first interview post-Stone Roses was for The Big Issue, already pretty loaded he didn't want to receive a penny for it, but thousands of vendors benefited.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:40am
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"Death On Two Legs" is a good snidey stab at their former manager, but admittedly it's an old album track, so unless you're a Queen fan (or snob rock fan who dismisses their popular stuff) you'd tend to miss the good stuff amongst some of the dross they chucked out after '81.
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:40am
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True, but the majority? Well, there's the groupies as well.
As for Queen, Radio ga ga, radio goo goo, radio blah blah?
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Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:41am
absolutely spot on... what makes me laugh is music is purely choice... I'll be on a train to Newport tomorrow and so far I've loaded onto my iPod the following. Jeff Wayne's war of the worlds Queen II Marillion - Live at Cardagon Hall Fish - 13th Star Leona Lewis - 3 albums Babybird - ex-maniac The Cure - wish Metallica - Black Album Pink Floyd - Dark side of the moon and more... but hey there we go..... My Beef with Kid A, is that though he believes that Queen are an over-hyped, overplayed band he doesn't seem to agree that they are one of the most skilful and driven bands that have ever been.. just take a look at the two albums A Night at the Opera and A Day at the Races and see the amount of instruments that the 4 members used to create those albums.. Pearl Jam said that Brian May is a useless Guitarist, but the industry doesn't think so. he built his own guitar from scratch and replicas of said guitar go for thousands of pounds, he is one of the most respected guitarists in the industry and that can't be taken away from him by fans... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:45am
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I cant believe any band starting off are doing it for the money, they do it because they love it. Of course if they are good enough / become popular (2 different things depending on your views of a certain band) they will make money. But for every band that make it there are 100's who do it and dont make anything to speak of.
------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:48am
------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:49am
Because in my opinion they are not. Skillfull? No more so than thousands of bands out there (in my opinion of course) The songs to me just don't seem to have too much novelty value. It's just "Dad rock".
But that doesn't make the songs good. The singer of my old band played 6 instruments on a song we recorded. Problem was, the song was a pile of pwp.
Again, the industry you refer to is responsible for Justin Bieber, Gareth Gates, Jedward et al. |
Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:49am
BOOM! Headshot
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:52am
The Smiths, a band I hated at the time but love now. Work that out. Age?
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:54am
Spot on. He just happenned to be the guitarist in Queen, who is a stickler for creating the sound he wants. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:06pm
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Kid A... you Harp on about the industry producing the likes of gareth gates et al. but surely the music that you listen to is part of said industry..... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:08pm
Difference is, you seem to be saying "The industry thinks this....." and "the industry thinks that........." I couldn't give a monkeys who "the industry" thinks the best guitarist is. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:13pm
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ok.. how about a bunch of guitarists stating that May is the 26th best guitarist of all time.. the voters are as follows: Some pretty big names in that list.... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:14pm
but surely that's how you are gauged if you are part of an industry.. so a players player of the year award is nothing, because it's just a bunch of players voting for another one in their industry..... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:15pm
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Music is a subjective thing, what one person likes there will be plenty who dont. For me it's Kasabian, Oasis, SFA, The Smiths, Stone Roses, Ian Brown, New Order, Charlatans etc etc. Now in the eyes of many that will make my musical taste to be 'very mainstream' but so be it. Will never dismiss any music (i love the Rhianna song featuring Calvin Harris mun and i mean love). If i like it i will listen, if i dont i wont. Don't really care what others think to be honest. Loves a good debate like this though. BTW Pablo Honey is a class album. ------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:15pm
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I really don't know what you're trying to prove. I know you like him. But writing a list of people that also like him, isn't going to change my mind. He also probably voted for himself. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:16pm
If you really get into music for the awards then I guess it is. The Oscars and the Brits have no bearing on anything I listen to or watch. |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:17pm
------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:21pm
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Kid A. what I am trying to say is, just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's cr@p. I can't stand Man Utd, but I can't disagree that they are currently one of the biggest football teams in the world same with queen... you cannot deny that they were and still are one of the biggest bands in the world. selling millions of records, playing to thousands of people. ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:23pm
 , i feel the love mate. ------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:24pm
------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:25pm
Of course not. As this thread has proved. I'm only answering the questions put to me!
Of course not. They are huge. But we've done this.........Does selling x amount of records mean an act is instantly, universally accepted as brilliant? I am saying it doesn't. |
Posted By: PearlJam
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:28pm
That's not the point though is it, being the biggest band means nothing. Selling millions means nothing; Justin Bieber has sold more records than Hendrix.
They may be the biggest bands in the world, but that doesn't necessarily make them 'the best'. As for best guitarists list. That means nothing either; if you can play a 10-minute solo, right-on - good for you - that doesn't mean you can write a good song. ------------- If you're losing your soul and you know it, then you've still got a soul left to lose. |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:33pm
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but they wrote the best song ever!!!! ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:35pm
Now you've gone and done it New thread please! |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:37pm
------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:37pm
Didn't realise Master of Puppets was written by Queen.
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:38pm
"Everything that I do, is infact done just for you" or something That must be the best as it was at the top of the charts for 8 years. |
Posted By: A Evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:38pm
 .------------- We are Con Air. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. |
Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:38pm
You better be joking!!!
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Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:39pm
| Oh dear, and we were all getting on so well until now. |
Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:40pm
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:45pm
Last paragraph, great point. Each to their own. I like Peter Kay but think Lee Evans is rubbish. I also prefer This morning to Loose women. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:49pm
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Does anybody listen to the chart countdown, or even know / care what is in the "top ten" etc these days? Do kids still do this? Music, and the way we listen to it has changed drastically in the last 15 years. |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:58pm
It was no 1 longer than the Queen has been on the throne,
------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:01pm
And that is one line i totally agree with.
A long, long time ago, the top Twenty was compulsive listening on the radio. No 1 was a prestige thing, for me it's lost its aura...
------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:03pm
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this is due to the fact that you only have to sell say 50k to get No.1 in the past you had to sell 100k+ to get to number one.... ------------- They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:03pm
I used to listen to the whole top 40 when I was younger, now (going by my children and their friends) they're force fed what's on playlists and what's on MTV and the dozens of other music channels at the time. The top ten changes all the time. The number of sales needed to reach the top ten is a fraction of the amount in the time scale you mentioned.
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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:08pm
In other words the music industry of today is a farce then....... ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:08pm
Nothing to do with the quality of music? |
Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:11pm
i'll have a think and get back to you. it certainly isnt 'dont shun it, fun it' though
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:15pm
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Doesn't strike me as a particularly good lyric at all that. What on earth does it mean? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:15pm
Anything off "Ride..." or "Master..." is immense:) Their "Master..." UK tour in '86 was amazing, Anthrax in support (touring "Spreading..."), what a bill! About 2 weeks before Burton was killed. Sometimes it's great being my age and seeing gigs like that before some of you were even born
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Posted By: dimcyril
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:15pm
snob rock fan? that must be me then. in my defence i would say that im not too keen on the really big hits stuff like ga ga, crazy little thing etc cos im bored of them. ive heard them so many times since i got into queen in 1984. i still love somebody to love and killer queen
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Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:15pm
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Things like iTunes or Amazon's "top downloads" lists are the equivalent to the charts now. I find it a bid sad that these are now within commercial organisations - at least with the old fashioned charts and TOTP there was a pretence of an independent front showcasing the music, Amazon, iTunes etc. only want to sell more crap. I completely agree with KidA about sales and quality are often unrelated. A large number of people (mostly kids) buy pop music because they're heavily advertised and because they're popular. The actual quality comes in a distant third place to these in my opinion but I'm completely biased because I detest almost all modern pop music.
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Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:18pm
Coupled with the availability of music these days and the attention span of this generation. Do you really think 'Boom Boom Boom' by the Outhear Brothers would have stayed at #1 for 10+ weeks after the turn of the century?
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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:19pm
Can't believe you knew who did "Boom, Boom, Boom" for a start. |