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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Brace was his usual self z#, dreadfully inconsidtent 
The late penalty he gave against Badham for “pushing” when chasing a kick was a total howler. It was just a coming together of two players going for the same ball. He’s lucky the Benetton kicker missed.

Some of his penalties for “not rolling away” were very harsh too. 

I hope the Scarlets gets some answers and that next time he refs us we iron out these issues with him pre match. I was wondering why he was quite harsh on Taylor jackling. This allowed Benetton to maintain pressure on us in our half.
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He claimed the tackling player was still engaged ergo not releasing. However the two occasions I saw the tackling player was on the opposition feet and rolled to the side in the process Brace gave penalties for obstructing. By the letter of the law correct for the flow of the game an most other games I’ve watched if the tackler is out of the way of defending players and not preventing a release etc the play on. Otherwise any tackling player who ends up still touching a defender would technically fall foul of his enthusiasm to blow his whistle
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Referees need to show little more common sense in my view.

I have in the past seen the tackled player place the ball on the tackler to gain a penalty. Attackers often get to the ruck and place their legs in such a position that makes it difficult for the tackler to get away. Finally the tackler may not necessarily know where the ball has been placed. If an attempt is being made to roll away then I don't think any penalty should be awarded. A good referee should, after a series of rucks, be able to sense whether a team or player are 'cheating' at ruck time.

Finally, there does need to be greater consistency between refs. What's ok one week is penalised the next. This makes it difficult for the players and frustrating for spectators.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Referees need to show little more common sense in my view.

I have in the past seen the tackled player place the ball on the tackler to gain a penalty. Attackers often get to the ruck and place their legs in such a position that makes it difficult for the tackler to get away. Finally the tackler may not necessarily know where the ball has been placed. If an attempt is being made to roll away then I don't think any penalty should be awarded. A good referee should, after a series of rucks, be able to sense whether a team or player are 'cheating' at ruck time.

Finally, there does need to be greater consistency between refs. What's ok one week is penalised the next. This makes it difficult for the players and frustrating for spectators.

Well at least he’s kept up his percentage stat of us winning 70% of the games he’s reffed. I’ll take that. 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Referees need to show little more common sense in my view.

I have in the past seen the tackled player place the ball on the tackler to gain a penalty. Attackers often get to the ruck and place their legs in such a position that makes it difficult for the tackler to get away. Finally the tackler may not necessarily know where the ball has been placed. If an attempt is being made to roll away then I don't think any penalty should be awarded. A good referee should, after a series of rucks, be able to sense whether a team or player are 'cheating' at ruck time.

Finally, there does need to be greater consistency between refs. What's ok one week is penalised the next. This makes it difficult for the players and frustrating for spectators.

Well at least he’s kept up his percentage stat of us winning 70% of the games he’s reffed. I’ll take that. 
A ref like that every week, please.
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Referees need to show little more common sense in my view.

I have in the past seen the tackled player place the ball on the tackler to gain a penalty. Attackers often get to the ruck and place their legs in such a position that makes it difficult for the tackler to get away. Finally the tackler may not necessarily know where the ball has been placed. If an attempt is being made to roll away then I don't think any penalty should be awarded. A good referee should, after a series of rucks, be able to sense whether a team or player are 'cheating' at ruck time.

Finally, there does need to be greater consistency between refs. What's ok one week is penalised the next. This makes it difficult for the players and frustrating for spectators.

Well at least he’s kept up his percentage stat of us winning 70% of the games he’s reffed. I’ll take that. 
I try to avoid blaming ref, and I am not saying he was why we lost, but he was extremely harsh on our jackle attempts and it hurt our game. Another ref has more flow around it.
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Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Referees need to show little more common sense in my view.

I have in the past seen the tackled player place the ball on the tackler to gain a penalty. Attackers often get to the ruck and place their legs in such a position that makes it difficult for the tackler to get away. Finally the tackler may not necessarily know where the ball has been placed. If an attempt is being made to roll away then I don't think any penalty should be awarded. A good referee should, after a series of rucks, be able to sense whether a team or player are 'cheating' at ruck time.

Finally, there does need to be greater consistency between refs. What's ok one week is penalised the next. This makes it difficult for the players and frustrating for spectators.

Well at least he’s kept up his percentage stat of us winning 70% of the games he’s reffed. I’ll take that. 
I try to avoid blaming ref, and I am not saying he was why we lost, but he was extremely harsh on our jackle attempts and it hurt our game. Another ref has more flow around it.

Agreed, I felt that there were times when the Benetton players were slow getting to the tackle area, and Taylor stood out in that aspect of the game until he had to hold back. Brace's interpretation clearly benefits the team in possession, but does not reward good defensive work in the tackle area. Good defensive work is just as valid as a good attacking move. 
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Yep, we’d have been better off with another blindside for defence/carrying rather than an openside looking for turnovers, in hindsight.
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Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

Yep, we’d have been better off with another blindside for defence/carrying rather than an openside looking for turnovers, in hindsight.

But that didn't become clear until the game started and Wes saw how Brace was refereeing the break down area. At HT, perhaps we should have told Taylor to play the 6 role and forget the jackle.
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