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Plumtree shoulder injury 
Costellow leg injury on crutches  both having scans on Monday 
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If the Welsh boys were trotting back they are at fault not a ball boy imagine the crap he's going to get in school because we are blaming him and not the ref (for a change)Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote skyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2026 at 11:39pm
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Stupid question here that I don't know the answer to, that someone might be able to.

So, Jarrod Evans just kicks our penalty for 3 points yeah.....all good. All our players are trotting back to our half post 3 points conversion, including the Scottish lads to restart the game from the half way.

During this period, and whilst everyone is running back, a ball boy runs onto the pitch from the half way line to place a ball on the half way spot.
This isn't the same ball that was converted by Jarrod. Yet, the ball that was placed on the half way is the ball that Finn used for a quick kick-off that caught everyone napping. 

So the question is, unless the ball that Jarrod used to to successfully kick our penalty was defective after that conversion, then shouldn't the same ball have been used at the restart?

Looking at the rules, I thought that you are generally required to use the same match ball that was in play, to say score a try, and then a conversation, and then at the restart?
This is what Gemini has to say:

Under World Rugby Law 2, while the ball used for a kick at goal (conversion or penalty) must be the one that was in play at the time, there is no requirement to use that exact same ball for the subsequent kickoff.

​Here is the breakdown of how this works in practice and in the law:

​1. The "One Ball" Rule for Kicking at Goal

​Law 8.8 (for conversions) and Law 8.22 (for penalty goals) state that the kicker must use the ball that was in play unless it is defective. This prevents players from swapping in a "special" kicking ball that might be drier or pumped to a specific pressure just for the shot.

​2. The Restart (The Kickoff)

​Once the goal is kicked (or missed and goes dead), that phase of play is over. For the restart:

  • The "Ball Person" factor: In professional matches, ball boys/girls will usually have a spare ball ready at the halfway line for the team kicking off to ensure the game restarts quickly.
  • Practicality: If a player hammers a penalty kick deep into the stands or over a fence, the referee isn't going to wait for a fan to throw it back. They will simply call for a "new" match ball from the sidelines.

​3. Match Ball Standards

​Teams usually provide a set of identical, pre-approved match balls (often 5 to 10 balls per game). Because every ball in that set is considered "the match ball," switching between them at a natural break in play—like a kickoff—is perfectly legal.


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Behind the 10-Metre Line

​By law, all players on the receiving team must be behind the 10-metre line in their own half.

Clearly as Fin Russell goes to kick off some of the Welsh players are still retreating and are not behind the 10m  line. The referee in my opinion should have waited.
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Originally posted by skyblue skyblue wrote:

Behind the 10-Metre Line

​By law, all players on the receiving team must be behind the 10-metre line in their own half.

Clearly as Fin Russell goes to kick off some of the Welsh players are still retreating and are not behind the 10m  line. The referee in my opinion should have waited.

I've also seen a video showing someone in a high viz top running from the field as the ball is kicked. Ref refused to allow us to restart at one pint as Costellow was still on the pitch and was being helped off. 

Game should not have restarted until the person in a the high viz top had left. Where were the TMO the ref and the AR's on this one ? 
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

If the Welsh boys were trotting back they are at fault not a ball boy imagine the crap he's going to get in school because we are blaming him and not the ref (for a change)Confused


In fairness that's his job, any time there is a restart the ballboyd/girls will have a ball on the half way waiting.

Laws suggest quick kick off can be taken.as long as all players are behind the ball.
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Originally posted by skyblue skyblue wrote:

<h3 dir="ltr">Behind the 10-Metre Line</h3>
<p dir="ltr">​By law, all players on the receiving team must be behind the 10-metre line in their own half.

Clearly as Fin Russell goes to kick off some of the Welsh players are still retreating and are not behind the 10m  line. The referee in my opinion should have waited.


I think that is from a receiving point if view.

If the team kicking off decide they don't want to wait for that, that is up to them.

I guess if the WRU kick up a fuss you might see a law tweak like when Italy out thought England around the rucks a few years back.

But regardless I player for years and I coached for years and I was always told if you getting into position you always face the opposition.

We got caught cold yesterday, you'd hope it doesn't happen again.

It's a pity as I think that was the turning point of the game.

If we did want to blame the ref I thought the penalty against LRZ, the original offence was a knock on by tupipolotu, sure it came off his hand as LRZ tried to pass it.
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Much better performance by Wales overall and good showing by Eddie James  also thought Alex Man. And Botham were good.
Shame we got caught by the quick kick off although not all players were back behind our 10metre line and unfortunately neither the ref or any of the officials picked this up but we should stoll have defended it better.
Didn't think our 14 offered anything and really not sure ehy Ellis Mee was dropped!!
A few decisions went against us as well but still a big improvement 
Sam played very well but now injured unfortunately  
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Really bad luck with  all bouncing backwards into Grahams hands, our two covering forwards had no chance.
Who's idea was it to give Hamer Webb a cap?
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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Really bad luck with  all bouncing backwards into Grahams hands, our two covering forwards had no chance.
Who's idea was it to give Hamer Webb a cap?


I thought hamer Webb did well yesterday, you can't pin that on one player, several were out of place and sleeping.

Looking at it again it wasnt that quick of a kick off, Finn noticed us napping and went for it.

We only had 1 player not past the 10m line, we did have a water boy and the ball boy wasn't quite off the pitch, but that was no ones fault but our own.
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A marked improvement. We came within a whisker (one dubious croc roll and a schoolboy error) of beating a team that whomped England last week. Scotland should be at peak powers. Ditto England. Ireland are on the wane but still capable of beating anyone on their day for about another 18 months. France will be so strong for a while with their depth and talent. They have everything. Italy are probably there or thereabouts as good as they'll likely ever be. We have 'just' risen off rock bottom. Perspective is everything. 

LRZ - I thought he'd do more at FB. I was wrong. Move him back to the wing.
Hamer-Webb - Nope. Took a big blow early on but he has nothing special about him that sets him apart from other options; Rogers (good in the air), Grady (big and fast), Murray (elusive), even Tom Bowen. 
Eddie - Had a great first half then they stopped using him. Defensively still getting OC reads wrong. Safe to say the best and most obvious option is to move him back to IC.
Joe - Thought he had a decent first half too but we were using him to bash so why not put Eddie there. Tailed off in the second. 
Adams - everyone bangs on about his two or three good reads... those were literally his only tackles. Saw him miss many more. Doesn't do enough for me. 
Costelow - Great first half. Our decline started when he went off for me. Really hope it's not too serious because when he's fit I think he played himself into the 10 shirt. 
Williams - been a long time supporter of his but he's been dreadful for Wales for a while now. I don't know if it's the tactics he's being asked to play or what. I just don't know who the better replacement it.
Wainright - workhorse on both sides. Would like to see him in a bit more space. But we need him.
Botham - I had him in my teams from early. He played well in many losses over the last two years. I'd have him at six for now.
Mann - Difficult. I think he can ONLY play as a 7 due to size. He did well first half but then faded. Not a natural 7. If you pick him and Botham you have two very similar players. We need Morgan back desperately. In the meantime, I would pick Morse at 7 but that's just me. 
Carter and Jenkins - 22 tackles a piece? Carter impressed me. He really stepped up. set-piece worked on the whole, and he made some dominant hits. Deserves to keep his place. Jenkins continues to impress
Francis - got through more work than usual in the loose. Still a problem position
Lake - Better. Less mistakes, much better carries. Needs this every game.
Carre - again, better I thought. More consistent with his carries. Needs to work on defence though. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Tandy names the same pack for Ireland (with Botham for Plumtree), Edwards back in a FH. Maybe Mee back in for H-W. I'd go

Mee
LRZ
Watkin/Hennessey
James
Rogers
Edwards
Hardy
Wainright
(Morse) Macleod
Carter
Jenkins
Francis
Lake
Carre

Smith
Elias
Griffin
Davies
Thomas
Mann
Tomos Williams
Joe Hawkins
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Wales supporters would be massively hypocritical if they kick up a fuss if indeed a rule was broken regarding the wrong ball. So that argument is a non starter. 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Wales supporters would be massively hypocritical if they kick up a fuss if indeed a rule was broken regarding the wrong ball. So that argument is a non starter. 


Indeed😉😉, doesn't have to be the same ball anyway, think the only stipulation around the ball is that if you're awarded a kick at goal, you have to use the ball in play to take that kick unless there is an issue with that ball.
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I actually WATCHED a Wales game yesterday, first one in ages, with an element of real pride.
Don't  forget we were playing a Scottish  side that hammered England last week ,and for a large part of the game, we were better than them.
Yes it was a loss, but huge improvements in several areas.
Tandy needs to iron out the deficiencies and build on it.
On the evidence on show at Twickenham,  it's highly unlikely  we will beat Ireland , but hopefully  be competitive,  which would  lead on to the final game against the Italians . We will get the wooden spoon again, but a WIN would do wonders firvthe side , it's confidence and give supporters some hope. 

Purely from a Scarlets  point of view, my worst fears , yet again with players injured. The key is Costelow, both for Wales and Scarlets. 
He was injured FOR WALES  against the Barbarians,  two years ago,  and has struggled to regain the zip and control he initially showed.
Against Scotland, all that was back, his kicking distribution and of course he fearlessly  tackles.
Edwards doesn't  come close to Sam in that form. Let hope he recovers well.
A word also for Eddie James. Wasn't  a regular  in the Scarlets  side not long ago, now putting in really  putting in commendable performances. at 
national level.  He needs to be tied down to long term deal at Parc
Mcloskey for Ireland show at Twickenham  how important it is to have someone of that physicality in the centre.


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Been reading online and I just don’t get why people seem to blame Wales when players are injured as if it’s some conspiracy. It’s every rugby players aim to play for their country. Injuries happen. It’s not ideal but to blame Wales is ridiculous. 

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cosrello is fearless just not sure hia frame can take test match rugby
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